On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 04:15:41PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Wouter Verhelst composed on 2017-04-02 20:59 (UTC+0200): > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 05:24:53PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Andrey Rahmatullin composed on 2017-04-01 01:49 (UTC+0500): > > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 04:30:28PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > Andrey Rahmatullin composed on 2017-03-24 21:18 (UTC+0500): > > > > > > > Start with reporting this bug at our BTS. > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858808 > > > (You got the version number wrong; I fixed that for you) > > ??? > > According to https://midnight-commander.org/ the current broken version is > 4.8.18, same as the app reports in its help screen.
What matters for the Debian BTS is the Debian version, not the upstream version (although it's part of the Debian version) > Filing a report from a > different machine there's no good way to know whatever additions the package > management system may have tacked on, or is there? http://packages.debian.org can show you. (this isn't critical however, as that metadata can be fixed -- as I did for you) > > > > As the bug severity is normal this won't be included in stretch, see > > > > https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html > > > > If you say it's broken maybe you've chosen a wrong severity? > > > > The right severity doesn't exist: nuisance; for 5 years, because Stretch > > > will be LTS. MC doesn't have an alpha, beta, final release program, so its > > > bug fixes always have to wait for another release unless someone > > > backports. > > > Yes, but that's obviously not how Debian works. If you want to get this > > fix into Stretch, you have to convince the release managers and/or the > > Debian maintainer for mc that the bug is problematic enough that either > > backporting the fix for that bug, or updating the package to the new > > version, is worth it in spite of our release policy. > > How does one go about that? You already did the first step -- file a bug. Give the maintainer a few days to reply to it. > > Whether that is the case for this particular bug isn't entirely clear. > > This is a pretty annoying issue; but from reading the bug report that > > you filed upstream, it doesn't feel like it's something that occurs in > > the default configuration. > If you mean by "default configuration" a new installation and no previously > saved settings rather than an upgrade, the bug is not apparent. However, > after update from <4.8.18 to 4.8.18, the "default configuration" is to use > the saved settings, which is why this bug manifests. The valid saved setting > is improperly applied *every* time mc is started, not just on a first use. You want to have that argument with the maintainer and/or the release managers, not with me ;-) -- < ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules, and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too. -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12