Hi Simon,

* Simon McVittie (s...@debian.org) wrote:
> Most packages in Debian that run autoreconf currently build-depend
> directly or indirectly on automake (version 1.14.1 in jessie, released
> 2013; version 1.15 in stretch/sid, released in 2015). However, 58
> packages in sid still build with automake1.11, released in 2009. This
> doesn't seem desirable for buster.
>
> I am *not* planning to report these bugs as RC, unless the release team
> or the automake1.11 maintainer want to remove automake1.11 from
> buster entirely (if so, please let me know).

Thanks for looking at this! As I've done a few times in the past I was
also planning to do a mass bug filing to remove automake1.11. I don't
think it rises to the level of RC but it would still be great to get
it all fixed up for buster. Usually posting patches and a few NMUs are
enough to move things along.

You're very welcome to kicking off the mass bug filing if you're
interested though :)

> Most of the packages that I've glanced at so far seem to have moved
> from an ancient version (often automake1.4 or automake1.9) to 1.11.
> In the past, Automake had a tendency to break compatibility
> between minor releases, making it desirable to lock the build system
> to the specific version that upstream used. However, recent versions
> have been queueing up incompatible changes for 2.0 instead (as
> described in the Automake 1.14 release notes,
> <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2013-06/msg00009.html>)
> so maybe many of these packages can track 1.x indefinitely?
> 
> A dd-list follows, generated by:
> 
> grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends,Build-Depends-Arch,Build-Depends-Indep \
>     automake1.11 \
>     /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_*_source_Sources \
>     | dd-list --dctrl
> 
> Nothing seems to have a runtime dependency on automake1.11, at least
> not on amd64 or i386. A couple of these packages build-depend on
> automake (>= 1.11) | automake1.11, but to be honest they'd probably be
> better off with just automake (>= 1.11) anyway, so I haven't filtered
> those out.
> 
> Regards,
>     S
> 
> ---- dd-list of affected packages ----
> 
> Adrian Knoth <a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de>
>    jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Andrew Lee (李健秋) <ajq...@debian.org>
>    scim-chewing (U)
> 
> Andy Spencer <andy753...@gmail.com>
>    aweather (U)
> 
> Anibal Monsalve Salazar <ani...@debian.org>
>    libnfsidmap
> 
> Barry deFreese <bdefre...@debian.org>
>    qonk (U)
> 
> Ben Armstrong <sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca>
>    xpilot-ng
> 
> Bill Allombert <ballo...@debian.org>
>    libjpeg6b
>    libjpeg8
> 
> ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) <czc...@debian.org>
>    scim-chewing (U)
> 
> Christoph Egger <christ...@debian.org>
>    warzone2100 (U)
> 
> Chrysostomos Nanakos <cnana...@debian.org>
>    tcpstat
> 
> Chuan-kai Lin <ck...@debian.org>
>    fam
> 
> Clément Stenac <zorg...@debian.org>
>    madplay (U)
> 
> Debian Accessibility Team <debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org>
>    svox
> 
> Debian Games Team <pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    qonk
>    warzone2100
> 
> Debian Gauche Maintainers <pkg-gauche-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    gauche
> 
> Debian GCC Maintainers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
>    cloog-ppl
> 
> Debian Med Packaging Team <debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    trinityrnaseq
> 
> Debian Multimedia Maintainers 
> <pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    icecast2
>    jack-audio-connection-kit
>    libshout
>    pd-iemmatrix
>    unicap
> 
> Debian OCaml Maintainers <debian-ocaml-ma...@lists.debian.org>
>    cairo-ocaml
> 
> Debian PHP Maintainers <pkg-php-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    php7.0
>    php7.1
> 
> Debian Printing Team <debian-print...@lists.debian.org>
>    ijs
> 
> Debian QA Group <packa...@qa.debian.org>
>    agg
>    aumix
> 
> Debian Science Maintainers 
> <debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    ann
>    aweather
>    lhapdf
> 
> Debian Science Team <debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    freefem3d
> 
> Debian XMPP Maintainers <pkg-xmpp-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    gsasl
> 
> Emanuele Rocca <e...@debian.org>
>    urlview
> 
> Florian Maier <cont...@marsmenschen.com>
>    smartmontools (U)
> 
> Free Ekanayaka <fr...@debian.org>
>    jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Giacomo Catenazzi <c...@debian.org>
>    g15mpd
>    libg15render
> 
> Giulio Paci <giuliop...@gmail.com>
>    basilisk2 (U)
> 
> Giuseppe Iuculano <iucul...@debian.org>
>    smartmontools
> 
> Guillaume Pellerin <yom...@altern.org>
>    icecast2 (U)
>    libshout (U)
> 
> Hakan Ardo <ha...@debian.org>
>    avr-libc
>    gcc-avr
> 
> HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) <d...@debian.org>
>    uim
> 
> IME Packaging Team <pkg-ime-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    scim-chewing
> 
> IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) <umlae...@debian.org>
>    pd-iemmatrix (U)
> 
> Jens Thiele <ka...@karme.de>
>    gauche (U)
> 
> Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk>
>    basilisk2
>    cstream
>    icecast2 (U)
>    ijs (U)
>    jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
>    kannel-sqlbox
>    libshout (U)
>    pd-iemmatrix (U)
>    unicap (U)
> 
> Jonathan Dowland <j...@debian.org>
>    smartmontools (U)
> 
> Jordà Polo <jo...@ettin.org>
>    exult
> 
> Jorge Salamero Sanz <ben...@debian.org>
>    gsasl (U)
> 
> Jose Luis Tallon <jltal...@adv-solutions.net>
>    libsieve
> 
> Junichi Uekawa <dan...@debian.org>
>    jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Jérémy Lal <kapo...@melix.org>
>    basilisk2 (U)
> 
> Kiwamu Okabe <kiw...@debian.or.jp>
>    uim (U)
> 
> Kurt Roeckx <k...@roeckx.be>
>    madplay (U)
> 
> Lifeng Sun <lifong...@gmail.com>
>    lhapdf (U)
> 
> Lior Kaplan <kap...@debian.org>
>    php7.0 (U)
>    php7.1 (U)
> 
> Luca Bruno <lu...@debian.org>
>    openocd (U)
> 
> Mad Maintainers <pkg-mad-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>    madplay
> 
> Martín Ferrari <tin...@debian.org>
>    qonk (U)
> 
> Marvin Stark <m...@der-marv.de>
>    syrep
> 
> Mathieu Parent <sath...@debian.org>
>    svox (U)
> 
> Matthias Klose <d...@debian.org>
>    cloog-ppl (U)
> 
> Michael Banck <mba...@debian.org>
>    exult (U)
> 
> Michael R. Crusoe <cru...@ucdavis.edu>
>    trinityrnaseq (U)
> 
> Michael Tautschnig <m...@debian.org>
>    cloog-ppl (U)
>    diagnostics
> 
> NIIBE Yutaka <gni...@fsij.org>
>    gauche (U)
> 
> Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <iwama...@debian.org>
>    uim (U)
> 
> OHASHI Akira <b...@debian.org>
>    liece
> 
> Ondřej Surý <ond...@debian.org>
>    php7.0 (U)
>    php7.1 (U)
> 
> Paul Wise <p...@debian.org>
>    warzone2100 (U)
> 
> Peter Eisentraut <pet...@debian.org>
>    source-highlight
> 
> Phil Brooke <p...@debian.org>
>    xpilot-ng (U)
> 
> Philipp Kern <pk...@debian.org>
>    hercules
> 
> Reinhard Tartler <siret...@tauware.de>
>    jack-audio-connection-kit (U)
> 
> Rene Engelhard <r...@debian.org>
>    muttprint
> 
> Romain Beauxis <to...@rastageeks.org>
>    cwiid
>    icecast2 (U)
>    libshout (U)
> 
> Roman Haefeli <reduz...@gmail.com>
>    pd-iemmatrix (U)
> 
> Rudy Godoy <r...@stone-head.org>
>    torcs
> 
> Sam Clegg <s...@debian.org>
>    madplay (U)
> 
> Samuel Mimram <smim...@debian.org>
>    cairo-ocaml (U)
> 
> Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org>
>    svox (U)
> 
> Simon Josefsson <si...@josefsson.org>
>    gsasl (U)
> 
> Stephen Kitt <sk...@debian.org>
>    basilisk2 (U)
> 
> Steve M. Robbins <s...@debian.org>
>    nyquist
> 
> Stéphane Glondu <glo...@debian.org>
>    cairo-ocaml (U)
> 
> Teemu Ikonen <tpiko...@gmail.com>
>    ann (U)
> 
> Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <casca...@minaslivre.org>
>    gsasl (U)
> 
> Tim Retout <dioc...@debian.org>
>    enscript
> 
> Tomas Pospisek <tpo_...@sourcepole.ch>
>    mailsync
> 
> Unit 193 <unit...@ubuntu.com>
>    icecast2 (U)
> 
> Uwe Hermann <u...@debian.org>
>    openocd
> 
> Vincent Cheng <vch...@debian.org>
>    conky
>    dbus-c++
> 
> Willi Mann <wi...@debian.org>
>    squidview
> 
> YAEGASHI Takeshi <yaega...@debian.org>
>    gauche (U)
> 
> Yaroslav Halchenko <deb...@onerussian.com>
>    qwo
> 
> Ying-Chun Liu <grandp...@gmail.com>
>    libshout (U)

-- 
Eric Dorland <e...@kuroneko.ca>
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