Vincent Bernat writes ("Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly"): > ❦ 20 février 2017 21:13 GMT, Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> : > > With the correct infrastructure (which is not that hard) the causes > > can be completely eliminated. I don't ever experience random build > > failures of any of my own packages and if I did I would hunt them down > > with a vengeance.[1] > > Good for you. > > https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rbuild/unstable/armhf/autopkgtest_4.3.rbuild.log
Thanks for the reminder that I should probably ask to be removed from Maintainers for that package. Martin Pitt has been doing most of the work, I don't seem to be seeing eye to eye with him lately.[1]] > It's also quite easier to not have a problems with reliable tests when > most of your packages don't have tests. I didn't say all my tests were reliable. Did you miss my mention of the dgit test suite ? I know quite what it's like to have a heisenbug in the test suite, in a program which you don't maintain, and whose upstream denies that there can possibly be any races.[2] There is no excuse for leaving an unreliable test as an FTBFS. They're a nuisance for QA folks, trouble for downstreams, and a landmine for users. Ian. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/833407 [2] Luckily another upstream developer eventually came to the rescue and now the failure probability is down to about one in 10-20 runs of dgit's adt tests.