Barry Warsaw writes ("Re: Auto reject if autopkgtest of reverse dependencies fail or cause FTBFS"): > There are occasionally good reasons why an upstream's test suite can't be run > at build-time, and in those few cases I will run them in an autopkgtest. But > generally, I think the two are there to test different aspects or lifecycles > of the package.
This depends very much on the nature of the program. If it's a self-contained library or tool, full of algorithms and with few entanglements with dependencies, and the upstream test is mostly algorithmic "right answer" tests, then what you say is true. But much software that we have is not like that at all. dgit is a very good example here. dgit has many dependencies and is easily broken by "unexpected behaviours" in those dependencies. Most tests uin the test suite exercise a mixture of code in dgit, and the dependencies, and the interaction between those. There isn't really a distinction between things that are useful to test during development, and things that are useful as autopkgtests. Even in software that looks very algorithmic it can be useful to use the upstream test suite as the autopkgtest. I recently packaged Simon Tatham's exact real calculator, `spigot'. spigot's build system as supplied by Simon runs a moderately extensive test suite. spigot depends on gmp. If there were some bug in certain gmp functions, that gmp bug might cause a regression in spigot. How would I detect this ? Well, I can publish the spigot test suite as an autopkgtest test. I haven't checked, but I imagine that Simon's test suite tests most of the interesting codepaths in spigot, so it probably also tests most of the intersting gmp calls that spigot makes. My view is that for most packages, if the upstream test suite _can_ be made to run against the installed version, and isn't annoying in some way, it should be advertised as an autopkgtest. One may want to add other autopkgtests. For example, I added another test for spigot, to check that it is actually using the gmp integration, rather than its fallback internal bignum library. AFAICT this is actually a check that could be done at build time, with spigot's current fallback behaviour, but autopkgtest is a convenient place to add Debian-specific tests, and it will spot if spigot gets dynamic fallback. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.