Hi! * Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> [2016-11-03 19:47:28 CET]: > One of the topics that we've been talking about yesterday is automatic > software upgrades of cloud images. Some of the cloud platform > providers really want this so that unsophisticated / inexperienced > users of Debian images on their platforms will be secure by > default. But there are potential issues here: > > * if users are providing a service like a database from a cloud > instance, there may be unexpected (potentially lengthy) downtime if > upgrades happen. Of course, this can be mitigated by disabling the > upgrade job on those machines if desired but that needs people to > know to do this. Experienced users will probably be dealing with > upgrades already, so this should not be an issue.
It's not only databases. It's also caching services like varnish, or cluster software which would trigger a failover then. In theory I'm all for it, but there definitely should be some more fine tuning for that. Please don't auto-restart varnish by needrestart, it puts a lot of load on the backend which might be a very bad idea. And the downtime that a mysql upgrade brings along is kinda annoying. And: cluster setups might be a real pain here. If you restart the cluster software at the same time you potentially run into split brain issues. So: BIG yeah for single-user non-critical systems, big nay and headaches for production nodes. Just my thoughts, Rhonda -- Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los | Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los |