On October 6, 2016 2:04:36 AM EDT, Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> wrote: >Paul Wise, on Thu 06 Oct 2016 11:40:12 +0800, wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> > So if some of these packages is falling down, the >debian-accessibility >> > team *has* to be notified so we can find a solution. Maybe we >should >> > put in the ftp-master process that an RM request for any kind of >> > accessibility-related package shouldn't be processed without an ACK >from >> > the debian-accessibility team? >> >> These kind of issues aren't specific to removal of accessibility >> packages; > >The kind of issue isn't specific indeed. But the consequence is >specific: the result is that some people can not use Debian any more at >all. That's very different from just missing a program you really want >to have. > >Scott Kitterman, on Thu 06 Oct 2016 00:08:19 -0400, wrote: >> It's extremely rare that a removal is problematic. It does happen >and in >> cases where it does, the FTP team is generally happy to expedite a >package >> back through New. >> >> Speaking only for myself, I think the level of work implied in your >request >> translates into removals don't happen. If you think this work should >be done, >> I encourage you to comment on the removal bugs requesting that the >removal be >> held in abeyance while you do it (also adding a moreinfo tag is >helpful). > >I'm not sure to understand what you meant exactly here. >debian-accessibility wasn't aware of the RM request before it was >processed. Realizing that and having to go through NEW again is not >technically hard, sure, but it takes a lot of energy to go pass the >frustration that it happened at all.
Agreed it's frustrating, but I don't think it's the FTP Team's job to second guess a maintainer request for removal of a buggy package. I doubt most people appreciate the volume of rm bugs. FTP Team spending significant time figuring out if maybe someone else might care just doesn't scale. As frustrating as occasional removal/reintroduction cycles are, they are rare enough that despite the frustration when they occur it's really not worth the effort it would take to avoid them completely. Scott K