On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 06:49:37PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> writes: > > > This says only what is the default. > > > Most users don't even know what's the difference. Even worse, if they > > get hit by one of many of systemd's bugs, they'll just curse and either > > accept lossage or consider changing distributions rather than > > investigate the cause. > > So you're volunteering to adopt upstart and package and maintain it in > Debian? If not, I'm not sure how this is relevant to the thread. Maybe > I'm just missing the implications of your position for whether or not to > maintain upstart configuration in packages despite the fact that there's > no upstart package in Debian. If so, could you spell that out for those > of us who didn't figure it out?
I don't understand why did you read my answer this way. I responded to Marco d'Itri's claim that systemd is the sole winner, based on popcon data. All I meant was that popcon is mostly worthless when comparing a default option to non-defaults (the only meaningful thing you can tell is when an option has zero or near-zero popcon), as most users either don't care or don't know. As for upstart -- I don't care for it, never intentionally used it, my only interaction with it was unpleasant (breaks daemons in chroots just like systemd does), and I don't volunteer to maintain it. On the other hand, I did a few NMUs to insserv and openrc, although that's just a tiny drop compared to the amount of work that needs to be done. Meow! -- An imaginary friend squared is a real enemy.
