Or perhaps we could assume good faith on the part of all participants to this dispute rather than trying to stir up a great moral crusade.
Ed Dixon wrote: > Be sure to share Daniels story via social media using the buttons on his > blog. I hope it wakes up the entire community to what happens when you > actually do something right around here! https://t.co/NwWs9AfW87 Thanks, > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 2:15 PM Richard Newton <rich123...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I agree, shame on those responsible. I have been using Debian for almost > > 15 years and this is the first time I have been ashamed. Add my name to the > > record "of conscientious objection." > > > > RIchard Newton > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Ralph Amissah <ralph.amis...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I post not in anger but sadness, I should not let my voice go uncounted. > >> > >> Attached is my note to Daniel of earlier today, before his posting of > >> "an abrupt end to Debian Live". Debian Live which he said Debian should > >> have (as a Debian developer) in 2006 and went on to deliver, rather > >> nicely (with (and without) help). > >> > >> ----- Forwarded message from Ralph Amissah <ralph.amis...@gmail.com> > >> ----- > >> > >> From: Ralph Amissah <ralph.amis...@gmail.com> > >> To: Daniel Baumann > >> Subject: outrageous, thievery > >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:28:44 -0500 > >> Message-ID: <20151109142844.GA28261@niu> > >> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) > >> > >> Daniel, (already one of the more active Debian Developers then) I > >> remember you telling Debian at Debconf 2006, Mexico about how "we"[1] > >> needed a live-maker within the project. I said then that I thought this > >> one of the most important projects within Debian (I was surprised that > >> there was not more interest and effort offered by others at the time, > >> though there was some, those so keen now did not seem to pay attention > >> then). Already then it was clear that it would one day be able to and > >> possibly be the preferred way to do a Debian install... as I said, > >> important. I saw how you contributed to Debian then, and I know how you > >> have contributed since. Instead of welcoming you and your work, there > >> seems to have been an effort to isolate you. > >> > >> Well clearly others have seen the fruits of your labor as a threat and > >> with envy, and ripe for their plucking! > >> > >> Outrageous! Disgusting. It is nasty. A bit strange to think that I > >> "know" some of those guys. > >> > >> My interest in Debian proper, dropped with your earlier treatment, it > >> took away the desire to be a closer part of it. At least that took out > >> much of any idealized notion of the inner workings of it. And there have > >> been other moves since. I continue to be amazed by the politics of > >> groups within Debian. This though has the feel of blatant thievery. > >> Chals characterization of a dictatorial coup would seem to be most > >> accurate. > >> > >> It has no doubt to do with power (perhaps indirectly money is involved > >> as well), your work & work area being seen as strategically important. > >> They do it because they can, & justify it whatever which way they will. > >> > >> I am sorry. I feel pretty bruised on your behalf. > >> > >> We have not spoken in a long while. I hope we have the chance to talk in > >> happier times. > >> > >> Greetings. > >> Ralph > >> > >> P.S. We are ok, not much to report. > >> > >> ----- End forwarded message ----- > >> [edits: addition of footnote, &; s/picking/plucking/] > >> > >> Indeed I am a friend of Daniel and primarily a user of Debian (a minor > >> contributor of a package (sisu[2]) that I wrote that I am happy to have in > >> Debian). In other circumstances I would consider myself at least an > >> admirer of individuals involved on the other side of this. Indeed I (use > >> use some of your software daily and) have met a number of you over the > >> years at a number of Debconfs and have fond memories for example of > >> visits to Cambridge when I lived in the U.K. and of being "introduced" > >> to Debian by Debian insiders. > >> > >> Thanks to all who have stood up for Daniel, he is a wonderful, generous, > >> (and capable) person. And yes, I do think him "wronged" by "Debian". > >> There are others that know him pretty well, who have followed a fairly > >> long sequence of events who must be outraged as well. > >> > >> Of course I wish Debian well, but I do not see your "handling" of Daniel > >> as its finest hour. This will no doubt "blow over" as it must ultimately > >> for the good of the project, but it sticks in my craw as it no doubt > >> does others, and there should be some record of conscientious objection. > >> > >> Ralph Amissah > >> > >> [1] to be clear, "we" was Debian. > >> [2] http://www.sisudoc.org/ > >> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=s...@lists.sisudoc.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic communication with its contents > > may contain confidential and/or privileged information. It is solely for > > the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, > > use, or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including > > the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended > > recipient, or authorized to receive for the intended recipient, please > > contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. Thank you > > for your consideration. > > -- Robert Edmonds edmo...@debian.org
