Simon McVittie wrote:
> I don't think ifupdown has been "Debian's native tool" for several years
> now. It is one among several available tools, and happens to be the only
> one with Debian as its upstream; on a wheezy-era sysvinit system that
> uses NetworkManager, the only thing ifupdown does for you is to bring up
> lo, and on a systemd system even that is unnecessary.

NetworkManager will bring up lo if not already up, so you don't need
ifupdown for that either.  See
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580309 and
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625427 .

> One thing that an adopter could very usefully do with ifupdown would be
> to coordinate with the systemd maintainers on moving net.agent
> (Debian-specific udev glue to invoke ifupdown) from udev into ifupdown,
> so that it does not need to be present at all on systems that rely on a
> non-ifupdown tool like NM. That would also mean that the ifupdown
> maintainer would be free to alter the precise details of how net.agent
> and ifupdown interact, since they would now control both ends of the "API".

I'd *love* to see that happen.  I've seen discussions about that, and
they always seemed to stall out.

- Josh Triplett


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