On 09/09/2014 16:59, Russ Allbery wrote: > Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez <clo...@igalia.com> writes: >> So, when upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie, we have three options: > >> 1) Keep the user init system (sysvinit most probably) >> 2) Upgrade to systemd after asking the user. >> 3) Upgrade to systemd silently without asking the user. [...] >> I understand that we want users to switch to systemd, so proper testing >> is done and bugs are reported. So option 2 is a good compromise. By >> asking users, each one can decide if he wants to risk to try systemd or >> not. > > +1 > > I don't believe we should switch init systems on upgrade without at least > a prompt, and given how easy it is to switch to systemd later, I think it > would be best to not switch init systems at all during an upgrade unless > forced to do so by other package dependencies (that may not happen at all > if systemd-shim is good enough).
I think there are good arguments for both switching to the new default and not: on one hand the migration will fail in some cases (and I doubt we will find all of them), on the other hand I believe we want most users to switch to the default init system, at least mid to long term. Being the default means it will be better tested and provide a better experience to (most) users. We could delay the transition-on-upgrade by one release, but the migration from sysvinit to systemd on a Jessie -> Jessie+1 upgrade will probably end up less tested (though systemd itself would probably be more tested by then). Having only some systems switch to a different init system on upgrade seems potentially confusing to me. That said, it would be nice if systemd-sysv could check for common problems on installation and issue a debconf warning, e.g. when not currently mounted entries are present in /etc/fstab or when keyscripts for cryptsetup are used. Ansgar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540f19af.3010...@debian.org
