Hi, Daniel Leidert: > Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > >In any case, IMHO a system that's been installed with wheezy, and > >then upgraded to jessie, should be identical to a system installed with > >jessie in the first place. > > That is nothing but wrong. [...] > Your argument is only reasonable for a plain standard system, which a user > did not alter.
Did I say "modified by the local sysadmin" in the above sentence? No. > However, this is *well* less then 1 percent of all systems? > Probably. So? We're talking about init systems. I daresay that the vast majority of Debian systems out there do not have any locally-modified scripts in /etc/init.d, which is about the only change that might be ignored when you switch to systemd (depending on whether the package in question now contains a systemd unit file). > The discussion e.g. about switching between default desktop environments has > AFAIK > NOT come to the conclusion, that we begin to touch the users system and change > his/hers decision of which DE to use. I don't recall anybody advocating this, so I don't quite understand what your problem is. > If the project decides to transition the default init system, that has to be > expected, yes, like it was with apache1.4->2.0, many library transitions ... AFAICT the systemd transition will be seamless and transparent for most users. Most major upgrades of nontrivial packages (Apache1>2 is a good example) are much more painful. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905184111.gg21...@smurf.noris.de