Andrei POPESCU dixit:
>Yes, I know everything in Debian is a package, but APT *is* the master
>of all packages :p
Wrong:
• dpkg (directly or via dselect) does not use APT’s system
(well, not necessarily, anyway)
• aptitude has been known to ignore the view dpkg/apt have
on the system, e.g. wrt. held packages, for ages
Vincent Bernat dixit:
>>> Why systemd-shim?
Wookey and I agreed on three levels of avoidance: hard disallow
(which would be -must-die), prevent systemd from being installed
(allows -shim) and prevent systemd from running (allows -shim
and libpam-systemd with its deps).
>I was hoping the author would admit the contradiction of requesting
>volunteers to code alternatives and at the same time reject them.
I do not request an alternative to… whatever systemd-shim is an
alternative to. I question why this thing is needed at all. My
sid desktop at $dayjob works just fine with systemd-must-die
installed, thank you very much. Okay, I uninstalled the KDE
metapackage due to the gvfs chain, but who cares… (or maybe
I could contribute a KDE metapackage that excludes systemd,
but right now things are in flux anyway).
bye,
//mirabilos
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