On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > FTR I used to be an Alioth admin, so I have some experience with the > work involved. > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Russell Stuart wrote: > > Sorry to be blunt Raphael, but your response looks like a series of > > platitudes designed to settle down the politics. Alioth's maintenance > > is in serious trouble. It is unusable to many projects on it, and it is > > clear from it's own bug reporting systems this has been the case for > > years. > > You're painting a picture which is worse than the reality. I agree > that nobody is looking at the tickets regularly and that mails to > ad...@alioth.debian.org tends to not get an answer but there are admins > and they are not entirely unavailable. Up to now I always managed to get > answer to my requests even though if often requires pinging the admins > via #alioth. > > > Deciding to accept an offer of help requires a lot of work. You have to > > find a graduated set of tasks that allows you to gain confidence in the > > persons abilities, and closely monitor how well they perform them. It > > looks to me like the effort required is beyond the Alioth team. > > That's true, it's difficult to get enough confidence in someone that > has not some history of contribution and to give them root rights. > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > In this case, gradually transitioning people to admins probably won't work: > > somebody needs to monitor the new guys+gals and give them a couple of > > rights to start with … and then, after some time, a couple of more rights … > > and who says that my "I want to help" request will be looked at, much less > > my "I'm ready for more opportunities to cause untold damage, give them to > > me" mail, next month? > > > > Instead, get a couple of volunteers and give them full admin rights from > > the start. Some will blunder their way through and some will quit after a > > week, but when the shakedown is done there's at least a chance that some of > > them will stay with it (and not break things too badly). > > This happened a few times already but only with well know DD. Cyril > Brulebois <k...@debian.org> got root rights over night after having > provided a few patches to multiple configuration files. I believe he > dropped off quickly because he does many other things already but still... > Alexander Wirt <formo...@debian.org> also joined the team not so long ago > AFAIK. More or less. If I am around and if things are possible without too much insight into fusionforge I am trying to help as much as I can.
I really need some time to get more knowledge about fusionforge. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140625065431.gj21...@formorer.de
