Hi, <with my Berkeley DB maintainer hat + downstream packages>
my view is that Berkeley DB is dead since Oracle relicenced it to AGPL3; I also think there are better alternatives for key-value storage databases like LMDB (http://symas.com/mdb/) (or possibly others like LevelDB, Tokyo/Kyoto, etc. we don't have to settle on one common solution). So I think that we can probably get rid of the Berkeley DB at the places where it's used like a simple key-value database. It would require some amount of cooperation with upstream and some work within the packaging (converting the database at the upgrade time). Fortunately most heavy users are moving away from BDB anyway: openldap has lmdb cyrus-imapd has skiplist database subversion has migrated to fsfs (something) I am sure that there are places where BDB usage is very well justified, but I feel that most downstream users had used Berkeley DB just because it was considered the gold standard (ehm)... The main reason for doing the switch is technical. I am already tired from each major version upgrade that needs all sort of ritual dances to not break the databases, but it would also send a strong message to the Open Source world that we do not take the re-licensing lightly. P.S.: I will do that for Cyrus SASL and Cyrus IMAP in any case, but it would be nicer if we had this as a release goal. Cheers, Ondrej List of affected maintainers follows: Adam Conrad <adcon...@0c3.net> cyrus-sasl2 (U) Adrian Knoth <a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de> jack-audio-connection-kit (U) Alastair McKinstry <mckins...@debian.org> ggcov Alberto Á. 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