I speak about Point 1 : "We will help creaters and users of both free and non-free software". Help creaters of non-free software is unethical. Don't support non-free software creaters and don't help them is freedom protective. Proprietary software is unethical and I see no reason to help unethical things.
Le 04/05/2014 17:07, Jean-Christophe Dubacq a écrit : > On 04/05/2014 14:24, Solal wrote: >> [GR2004-2] have nothing to do with it. >> My proprosition is just warn about proprietary software dangers, but >> users would still install non-free software from repositories, get help >> from developers, etc. But they are warned. >> >> Le 04/05/2014 14:20, Jean-Christophe Dubacq a écrit : >>> On 04/05/2014 13:59, Solal wrote: >>>> I think we shouldn't support proprietary software creaters, and we >>>> should warn proprietary software users about proprietary software >>>> unethicality (this does not mean that we will not help users proprietary >>>> software but just that we warn of dangers. howewer, we will not help >>>> proprietary software creaters). >>>> >>>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >>>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >>>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>> >>> This is your idea. However, as shown by [GR2004-2], this is not the >>> opinion of the project. >>> >>> [GR2004-2]: http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002 >>> > > Please do not top-post if possible. > > I'd rather not annoy our users more than the current warning about > enabling non-free at install time. However, this warning may be > rewritten if the project feels it is not informative enough. > > However, your proposition also has the sentence "we shouldn't support > proprietary software creaters". This is subject to many interpretations. > The first interpretation that comes to my mind is in contradiction with > point 5 of the Debian social contract (for example in "Thus, although > non-free works are not a part of Debian, we support their use and > provide infrastructure for non-free packages"). > > As for other interpretations, the project generally does not distinguish > between uses of the software, be it for creating free software, curing > cancer, being evil, or worse: creating non-free software. Not supporting > proprietary software creaters would probably, in some of these > interpretations, require considering not allowing Debian to be used for > non-free software, which would bar us from using almost all currently > DFSG-free software. Is that what you meant by "we shouldn't support > proprietary software creaters"? Because providing them our wonderful > distribution is supporting them. > > Sincerely, > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536658a7.1090...@me.com
