On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team <chaosesquet...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The systemd fans ban anyone who say f__k-that to systemd.
Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectly reasonable reason for a ban, regardless of the opinion expressed by the banned or held by the banners. > What can we do? > Can we fork debian? (Why do we have to...) During this whole debate what I came away feeling is that the strongest point of criticism against systemd was not technical or structural, but rather social - there is a significant and vocal discontent with the decision making process in systemd and with some specific decisions made with that process. Which leads to a fear of possible future problematic decisions. If that is not a reason enough to reject systemd from consideration (and apparently it is not), then there is another solution with a long history of success in open source community - *fork systemd*. Debian appears to have some important requirements and wishes that current upstream does not consider valid. If the current upstream continues to hold on to that position, then it might be beneficial to both Debian and the wider community if Debian leads a fork of systemd, implementing these requirements and wishes, seeking out other requirements and wishes that have been rejected or ignored and gathering a new development community around this fork in systemd. -- Best regards, Aigars Mahinovs mailto:aigar...@debian.org #--------------------------------------------------------------# | .''`. Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) | | : :' : Latvian Open Source Assoc. (http://www.laka.lv) | | `. `' Linux Administration and Free Software Consulting | | `- (http://www.aiteki.com) | #--------------------------------------------------------------# -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabpywdwkwpvsbmvtujua0dcj03vqn0iaczitkf2nhvfopmk...@mail.gmail.com