Hello Rene!

On 12/28/2013 08:40 AM, René Kuligowski wrote:
> concerning: older AMD64 computers + 3.x kernel,
>             X11 + native NVidia drivers + FVWM or WMII,
>             and some other SIGSEGV'ing apps

This is too unspecific, unfortunately. You should file a bug report for
each machine and each problem you encounter.

For example, when you see crashes of the nVidia driver with one of your
machine, file a bug against the "nvidia-glx" package providing the exact
hardware configuration you have. The tool "reportbug" will allow you to
create a template to write a bug report and you can find more
information here [1].

> I am using an older AMD64 AthlonXP Core 2 3800+, accompanied by 8GB DDR2
> RAM, on an Asus M2NPV-VM mainboard, which features a nForce4 430 chipset
> with integrated NV6150 GPU, and use an additional PCIe NV9500GS GPU.

Before looking closer at the software, have you checked the hardware
itself? The capacitors on hardware of that age are very prone to
failure, see [2].

> ––  I have disabled PowerNow in the mainboard's BIOS, and the 3.2 kernel
> complains about missing ACPI ("try with newer BIOS").  The kernel
> doesn't even recognize the power-off button.  In debian 6, ACPI works
> absolutely perfectly.

Well, did you actually try a newer BIOS? ACPI tables which are part of
the mainboard BIOS are very often broken or incorrect. There are tools
which are table to verify the ACPI implementation of your BIOS [3].

Newer BIOS version often fix or at least improve the ACPI tables.

>     When I use the Novula kernel module, things are extremely slow, even
> in 2D mode;

Speed is very subjective in this regard, but nouveau is certainly slower
than the binary driver by nVidia. This is known and lies in the nature
of the way this driver has been developed.

> when I use the native NVidia modules (driver packages 304 or
> 295 which support both GPUS, or the recent 331, which only supports the
> 9500), KDM, FVWM, WMII and a good host of other programs just SIGSEGV or
> put the CPU in an endless loop and blank the screen by using illegal
> video modes.

Then you should actually file bug reports against "nvidia-glx" providing
all necessary information like the output of "lspci", "dmesg" and so
on. You can, for example, write an installation report [4] which
will do most of that work for you. You just need to fill in the
missing information about the hardware and what worked and what not.

> Note: this does *not* happen in the i386 port of debian 7, which runs
> smoothly on my Acer AspireOne netbook with native Intel GPU drivers…

How is this related to any of the problems above? This is a completely
different hardware. Please file separate bug reports for each problem
and machine.

>   Since there seems to be no 2.6 kernel available anymore, I'll stick
> with debian 6.0.7 for now (by the way, the 6.0.7 security update and the
> 6.0.8 have similar issues…).  Please look into this issues and let me
> know if you can fix it somehow.

Before we can do that, you need to file proper bug reports so that
maintainers and developers don't have to search the necessary
information to pin down the origin of your problems. With the current
information, it's rather like finding a needle in a hay stack.

Adrian

> [1] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
> [3] https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/test-acpi
> [4] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas04.html.en

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