On 11.07.2013 09:12, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
On 07/11/2013 14:15, Paul Wise wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Lars Meyser wrote:
No I did not miss that, but I'm not entirely sure of the implications. So if I use a packaged version of a program which has been modified (e.g. by Debian
patches) I am not obliged to make the source available?

I'm no expert but that would be my interpretation. Also when I asked
about the basis of the network part of the AGPL during the GPLv3 talk
at DebConf10 in NYC, Bradley said the AGPL was specifically based on
modification, _not_ on public performance or other use.

You have to make the source available in this case. Otherwise it would
be a trivial way around the AGPL (just have a third party modify the
program and give it to you).

Section 13 (Remote Network Interaction) requires modified version to
offer access to the source. If you modify the software, but do not
provide this, you violate this license requirement and lose the right to
modify and distribute the covered work under section 8 (Termination).

And with open source software you often deal with "modified" versions,
so claiming this is a special case ("[...] was specifically based on
modification, _not_ on public performance or other use") seems a bit odd
to me.

Anyway, this discussion seems more appropriate for -legal than -devel.
CC'ed and set Reply-To accordingly.

Ansgar

My understanding though that if Debian is the one making the modification then Debian is the one responsible for making the source available. If the end user is then modifying the source then they would subsequently need to make those modifications available. I would find having the Debian package install a tarball that could be linked to and downloadable from the end user to be unnecessary duplication if all that would be needed would be a link then why not just have that link point to the source on the Debian mirror. If the end user then makes modification it's upon them, not Debian, to ensure they are compliant with the license agreement.


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