+++ Jonas Smedegaard [2013-06-07 17:24 +0200]: > Quoting Paul Wise (2013-06-07 05:17:46) > > I would suggest the approach taken by the recent GSoC projects related > > to bootstrapping new ports. Multi-stage builds. First stage without > > docs and second stage with docs. Only the second stage gets uploaded > > to Debian. > > > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianBootstrap > > Above wiki page seems to recommend using <!stage1> syntack in > Build-depends: lines which I believe is not supported as far back as > oldstable (if in any official Debian suite at all), and references > bug#661538 and #661537 still open.
Correct. It is not supported in any debian suite yet. We do expect it to be supported in jessie, but probably with a revised syntax. (See http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/build-profile-syntax-ideas-td2918264.html) We are trying to finalise this now (stalled on me currently for which I apologise to those with an interest). > What to do *today* to express bootstrapping alternatives to circumvent > circular build-dependencies? You might be able to use alternative B-Ds: Build-depend: foo | foo-minimal but this only covers some cases. In general we don't have a mechanism to do this _in the archive_ until build-profiles are supported (or at least ignored by B-D parsing tools) You can bootstrap happily using local builds and local tools that support profile builds. Existing patches here: http://people.debian.org/~wookey/bootstrap/patches/profiles/ Then just upload the final builds, and sources with the profile info only encoded as comments. > My concrete need is simpler than some, as it needs no special flags at > build-time: I want librdf-trine-perl to enable most possible optional > parts of its testsuite, including some parts which themselves > build-depend on librdf-trine-perl. > > What I will do for now is to just add those extra build-dependencies and > add a note to README.source which build-dependencies can be manually > dropped in a custom bootstrap build. I realize how painful it is for > those needing to bootstrap, but sadly neither DebianBootstrap nor > CircularBuildDependencies provide concrete help for package developers > at the moment, it seems. Agreed. And comments in the control file about this are _extremely_ helpful to people doping this work who are clueless about the details of the package in question. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130607155548.gw14...@stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk
