On May 28, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Marc Haber <mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:27:36 -0700, Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org>
> wrote:
>> (The shading of meaning between those two options could be clearer.  I
>> took it as a measure of enthusiasm and personally answered "I welcome
>> systemd in Debian" because, regardless of whether it becomes the default,
>> I'm happy to provide systemd unit files for my packages.


If Upstart makes it into Debian, good luck running (responsible, reliable) 
servers: 

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/669481  

http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/2012-03.html#Ditched-Ubuntu-and-Switched-Laptop-to-Back-to-Debian-64bit

Dependency based init already works well, to replace it with a hive of bugs 
does not make sense.  OpenRC is the only one which claims to be reverse 
compatible, 
if this is true then OpenRC should be the focus. 

-- 
Mark 




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