Michael Schmitt <tcwardr...@gmail.com> writes: > That may be common thinking, agreed. But I am that extremely worried > about the current upgrade solution in wheezy, sorry... I think Debian > should try to get it in.
We are way, way too late in the release process for something that substantial. There are other alternatives to GNOME 3 already available in wheezy for those who really dislike GNOME 3. (Xfce, for example, seems to have become a popular alternative to both KDE 4 and GNOME 3 among the people I know who disliked the direction of those two projects.) > And freeze means "not released yet" last I checked. And Debian is the > perfect example for a project that does rather release a month or two > (or even longer) if needed, to get things right. As a user of Debian, I would very much prefer that Debian not delay the release by even two months for MATE. Nothing against MATE, but introduction of a new desktop environment, even one with arguably nice upgrade properties from a desktop environment in the last stable release, is not the sort of emergency that should warrant postponing the release. This is how freezes work. If someone wants substantial new development (and MATE, regardless of what it was forked from, still amounts to substantial new development from a packaging perspective) in the next release of Debian, it needs to be in unstable before the freeze. If it isn't, oh well, better luck for the next stable release. As Debian gets larger and larger, we're going to have to get more and more strict about this policy. Every project thinks their needs are particularly important, but down that path lies never releasing at all. If it needs to be in the next stable, it needs to be in before the release, period. Anything else that isn't a bug fix to an existing package will not be included, and the bar to override that default needs to be quite high. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4nnq59x....@windlord.stanford.edu
