Am Donnerstag, den 11.10.2012, 14:38 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > Hi Benjamin, > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:38:08PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > How popular are bzr-builddeb and dh-make in Debian? The current > > situation is that packaging-dev recommends bzr-builddeb and suggests > > dh-make. It was requested to drop bzr-builddeb from Recommends and add > > dh-make [1]. The recommended packages of packaging-dev should be > > recommended by most of the Debian developer and not just by the > > maintainer of packaging-dev or one single bug reporter. > > I think this is a failing proposition. There are as many different > preferences about packaging, to the nearest order of magnitude, as there are > Debian developers. I'm fine with this package being one maintainer's > recommendations for some packages; I'm not at all ok with it being recast as > a blessed recommendation of the project, as I object to about a third of the > stuff in there.
The main purpose of this package is to help beginners to get ready for packaging and not making a recommendation statement for the Debian project. The question is: Will you recommend newcomers to install packaging-dev to start packaging? Will installing packaging-dev be enough or will you recommend to install bzr-builddeb or dh-make afterwards? > > Therefore I am asking you: How popular are bzr-builddeb and dh-make? > > Should they be recommended or just suggested by packaging-dev? > > dh-make isn't so relevant now that debhelper 7 exists. cp > /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.tiny debian/rules && dch > --create, manually create debian/control and debian/copyright, and that's > about it. That's my opinion, too. > bzr is the fourth most popular version control system in Debian according to > <http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/vcs-usage/>. If you're going to demote > bzr-builddeb (which doesn't bother me), I think you should also be demoting > svn-buildpackage, because svn is horrible and should die. I agree that Subversion should die, but it is still widely used. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer
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