On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 30, Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> wrote: > > The obvious way is to not use a separate /usr anymore or simply mount > > /usr via the initramfs. > > > > Wasn't there a patch for initramfs-tools floating around doing that? > Yes, there is one but the maintainer has not applied or rejected it > so far. > > Fellow developers, please do not waste your time moving stuff to /lib: > it's a task both endless and futile because nowadays it is clear that > the upstream maintainers of various stuff do not support a standalone > /usr mounted by the init scripts: if /usr is a standalone file system > then it must be mounted in the initramfs.
Yes, because after all, an outdated initramfs already craps all over your md arrays and hoses the kernel and let's not even touch the root-on-lvm and encrypted-root break-me-plenty scenarios. Why not make sure it will also break the world if you change /etc/fstab [and forget to update the initramfs] ? It is getting to the point we will have to deploy machinery to actually check whether the damn thing needs an update automatically using filesystem monitors. Fellow developers: if your stuff is in /bin or /sbin, and it needs something that is currently in /usr, take a long breath, and think VERY HARD whether your stuff should be in /bin or /sbin in the first place. If it *does* have to live in /, think EXTREMELY HARD whether it should depend on the stuff that is in /usr (hint: no linking to bling or overly complex crap on mission-critical early userspace stuff!). As for PAM, AFAIK neither sulogin nor anything important for early userspace will care. IMHO, that means it could move to /usr if it wanted, or we could just leave it as-is: it does NOT matter whether it works or not with a separate /usr if it is only used after /usr is available in the first place and it is of no help in a disaster recovery scenario. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120830012523.ga22...@khazad-dum.debian.net
