On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:56:53AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Minified javascript files"):
> > The problem I see with it, is that it adds complexity to the judgement
> > of whether something is suitable for a source package or not (on all
> > actors involved: maintainer, ftp-masters, QA, bug reporters, etc.). With
> > something like that we'll have 3 cases:
> >
> > - DFSG-free source[1] -> stay in the tarball, not hidden
> > - non DFSG-free "binary" -> must be removed, via repacking
> > - "binary" generated from DFSG-free source available elsewhere in the
> > archive -> stay in the tarball, hidden at the dpkg-source level
>
> That's not what I was proposing. I was proposing that we would treat
> your 2nd and 3rd points identically. They would then be in our
> archive in the .orig.tar.gz files.Right, that's, strictly speaking, not what you proposed. But it seems to me that to support the argument "it's not SC violation because the source is available in a different package", you do need to perform such a distinction. Anyway, the most important part seems to be your ideological[1] question: > If this is not ideologically[1] acceptable The point here is whether having non-free material, which is in distributed tarballs but hidden by dpkg-source, would constitute inclusion of non-free material in what we call Debian. (Of course we're talking about "main" here.) Personally, I wouldn't consider that acceptable. Even if I were ready to accept the idea that "hidden for any reasonable purpose" non-free material could be part of Debian tarballs (and I'm not), I wouldn't consider dpkg-source hiding good enough. The reason is that what to do with a .orig.tar.gz file --- invoking dpkg-source on it --- is obvious to anyone with Debian knowledge, but it is obscure to anyone else. A random *nix user with no Debian knowledge would just open it up, find non-free material, and be induced to conclude that it is part of Debian. For DFSG-related purposes dpkg-source hiding is just not enough, IMO. (Thought it'd still be fine for the 3rd case above.) Cheers. [1] same footnote of yours: > [1] NB I do not mean to use "ideological" in a pejorative way. I am > very comfortable with the idea that Debian might make decisions based > on ideology. The root question being discussed here is IMO > essentially ideological. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
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