On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 18:10 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-07-10 at 06:14pm, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > On 2012-07-10 16:18, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > > But the purpose of the meta-package is to pull stuff in. Depends > > > does that, Recommends does not, therefore Recommends is not > > > appropriate for the task. > > > > Surely Recommends does pull stuff in. It's clearly reflected in Debian > > policy and supported by most if not all high-level packages managers > > in Debian. Therefore it's totally appropriate for the task. > > Recommends does not _ensure_ that all is pulled in. > > The very purpose of a meta-package is to _ensure_ that a certain set of > packages is installed, not just recommend them: All (not only most) > users of that package need all its dependencies satisfied - those that > don't should simply uninstall the meta-package.
Exactly! And as confirmation see below you will see gnome recommending
and even suggesting, which is probably fine:
aptitude show gnome
Package: gnome
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Version: 1:3.0+9
Priority: optional
Section: gnome
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers
<pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Uncompressed Size: 52.2 k
Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.0+9), desktop-base, alacarte (>= 0.13.2),
cheese (>= 3.0), ekiga (>= 3.2), evolution (>= 3.0), evolution-plugins
(>= 3.0),
file-roller (>= 3.0), gedit (>= 3.0), gnome-documents,
gnome-games (>= 1:3.0), gnome-orca (>= 3.2), gnome-nettool (>= 3.0),
hamster-applet (>=
2.91.2), seahorse (>= 3.0), tomboy (>= 1.6) | gnote, vinagre
(>= 3.0), abiword (>= 2.8) | libreoffice-gnome, avahi-daemon, gimp (>=
2.6),
gnome-media (>= 2.91), gnumeric (>= 1.10) | libreoffice-gnome,
inkscape (>= 0.48), rhythmbox (>= 2.90), shotwell, simple-scan,
sound-juicer (>=
2.32.1+20110330), transmission-gtk, xdg-user-dirs-gtk,
libatk-adaptor, cups-pk-helper (>= 0.1.2), epiphany-extensions (>= 3.0),
gedit-plugins (>=
3.0), gnome-applets (>= 2.91), gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (>=
0.10.12), gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly (>= 0.10.18), gvfs-bin,
nautilus-sendto (>= 3.0),
rhythmbox-plugins, rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder,
telepathy-gabble, telepathy-salut, totem-plugins, libgtk2-perl (>=
1:1.130)
Recommends: browser-plugin-gnash, gdebi, gnome-games-extra-data (>=
3.0), liferea | evolution-rss | blam, menu-xdg, nautilus-sendto-empathy,
telepathy-idle
Suggests: dia-gnome, gnucash, libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-evolution,
planner, gnome-tweak-tool
saida:~# aptitude show gnome-core
Package: gnome-core
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Version: 1:3.0+9
Priority: optional
Section: gnome
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers
<pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Uncompressed Size: 52.2 k
Depends: brasero (>= 3.0), dconf-gsettings-backend (>= 0.7.5),
dconf-tools (>= 0.7.5), empathy (>= 3.0), eog (>= 3.0), epiphany-browser
(>= 3.0), evince (>=
3.0), evolution-data-server (>= 3.0), fonts-cantarell,
sound-theme-freedesktop, gcalctool (>= 6.0), gconf2 (>= 2.32), gdm3 (>=
3.0), glib-networking
(>= 2.28.7), gnome-backgrounds (>= 3.0), gnome-bluetooth (>=
3.0), gnome-contacts, gnome-control-center (>= 1:3.0),
gnome-disk-utility (>= 3.0),
gnome-icon-theme (>= 3.0), gnome-icon-theme-extras (>= 3.0),
gnome-icon-theme-symbolic (>= 3.0), gnome-keyring (>= 3.0),
libpam-gnome-keyring (>=
3.0), gnome-menus (>= 3.0), gnome-packagekit (>= 3.0),
gnome-panel (>= 3.0), gnome-power-manager (>= 3.0), gnome-screensaver
(>= 3.0), gnome-session
(>= 3.0), gnome-session-fallback (>= 3.0),
gnome-settings-daemon (>= 3.0), gnome-shell (>= 3.0),
gnome-system-monitor (>= 3.0), gnome-terminal (>=
3.0), gnome-themes-standard (>= 3.0), gnome-user-guide (>=
3.0), gnome-user-share (>= 3.0), baobab (>= 3.0), gnome-dictionary (>=
3.0),
gnome-screenshot (>= 3.0), gnome-search-tool | tracker-gui,
gnome-system-log (>= 3.0), gnome-font-viewer (>= 3.0),
gsettings-desktop-schemas (>=
3.0), gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (>= 0.10.34),
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good (>= 0.10.29), gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio (>=
0.10.29), libgail-3-common (>=
3.0) | libgtk-3-common (>= 3.2), gucharmap (>= 1:3.0),
gvfs-backends (>= 1.8), libcanberra-pulse, metacity (>= 1:2.34),
nautilus (>= 3.0),
network-manager-gnome (>= 0.9), notification-daemon (>= 0.7),
policykit-1-gnome, pulseaudio, totem (>= 3.0), vino (>= 3.0), yelp (>=
3.0), zenity
(>= 3.0)
Suggests: gnome
Description: The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components
The most logical is that gnome-core does not depend on
network-manager-gnome but the gnome package do. Indeed, experienced
users will install gnome-core and select the rest manually.
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