Hi Now lets do a benchmark on a busy system (during a kernel compile) and some memory pressure, due to building on tmpfs. While this is not directly representative for /tmp/ usage patterns, it does show what happens if /tmp/ gets full and fights against normal RAM uses.
Tested on a current unstable system under KDE 4.7.4, debuild invoked under 'konsole'. For each test the system was freshly rebooted and is mostly idle. As an indicator for system responsiveness the only application running besides konsole && debuild is kaffeine, displaying a 720*576 DVB-T/ MPEG2 stream. *system specifications* - Intel Core2 Quad Q9550, 2.8 GHz - 8 GB RAM - ATI RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] using xserver-xorg-radeon and its firmware - Seagate ST31000340AS HDD, 1 TB, 7200 rpm - io scheduler cfq registered (default) - kernel 3.4.1-rc1 required space for building linux-2.6 3.2.19-1 on amd64 using debuild on an unclean host, involving a lengthy lintian run (no devscripts.conf customisation), ~19 GB *ext4* single GPT partition spanning the whole disk, freshly formatted with ext4 (all defaults, empty). /dev/sdc1 /mnt ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0 [during the build, towards the end (docbook generation)] $ free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 7991 7830 160 0 57 6435 -/+ buffers/cache: 1338 6652 Swap: 0 0 0 $ time debuild -j8 […] real 142m17.038s user 249m31.896s sys 33m25.303s The system remains responsive during the whole build time, video display remains fluent. *tmpfs* single GPT partition spanning the whole disk, freshly mkswap'ed benchmark /mnt tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=838860800k 0 0 [during the build, towards the end (docbook generation)] $ free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 7991 7486 504 0 2 6527 -/+ buffers/cache: 956 7034 Swap: 953868 7142 946726 [immediately after the build] $ free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 7991 7250 740 0 87 6302 -/+ buffers/cache: 861 7129 Swap: 953868 11846 942021 $ time debuild -j8 […] real 163m15.803s user 253m6.583s sys 35m38.599s Once the system gets under memory pressure (more than ~7-9 GB space needed on tmpfs), system responsiveness is gone. Video playback becomes a strobe light slide show, mouse and cli are choppy, moving windows is basically impossible - not enough to get tempted to hit hard-reset, but interactive system use is no longer useful. Of course this is not a representative benchmark, unless swap is many times larger than system RAM, but it shows what happens when tmpfs gets full (which is not an unlikely situation, as demonstrated in this thread) and enforces swapping. Keep in mind that the OOM killer cannot evict tmpfs, but only page it out. However comparable situations might easily arise on systems up to 1 GB RAM and twice its RAM size as swap, these systems have basically no RAM to spare for tmpfs. While I'm not arguing for or against the RAMTMP defaults, given that I tend deviate from normal procedures[1] here, I don't think systems with less than 2 GB system RAM can spare any of their RAM for /tmp/[2]. Even on systems with more RAM, it might be pretty hard to reserve enough space on a tmpfs backed /tmp/ to meet the expectations of contemporary applications, without compromising on system memory. Regards Stefan Lippers-Hollmann [1] by bind mounting /var/tmp/ on /tmp/, either backed by a separate /var/ partition or a dedicated /var/tmp/ partition on servers [2] using KDE4 or GNOME3, anything below 1 GB RAM severely limits "multi-tasking"; running browser, office suite, PDF viewer, file manager at email client at once basically requires ~1.5 GB RAM at least. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206022038.39233.s....@gmx.de