Hi there! Just some small notes without re-iterating what other people already wrote in this (now too-long) thread.
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:26:06 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Am 12.10.2011 23:39, schrieb Josh Triplett: >> Not every system needs an MTA, and I'd argue that today most systems >> don't. [...] > I agree with the counter-arguments in this thread, that a default UNIX > server setup should contain an MTA. This also is true for desktop > systems of advanced UNIX sysadmins. I think that the real question is: how much should Debian GNU/Linux mimic a standard UNIX system by default? > But if Debian cares about desktop users which don't know the internals > of a Linux/UNIX system, we need to accept that they have a very > different vision of a default installation. For them a system should be > kept easy, with as few daemons as possible. I do not see why a system with a lot of daemons should not be considered easy or, IOW, the two things are not mutually self-exclusive. > For them things like power consumption and RAM usage of default > systems count much more than whether the system has all required > elements of a standard UNIX system. As Steve already pointed out [1], there is user-friendly software bigger and more memory-eater than MTAs. I run Postfix on my laptop [2] and have no problem using it [my laptop] for ~3h on battery, but as soon as I start XULrunner everything changes [3] (and I do not use any fancy DE, simply ratpoison, screen and Emacs). [1] <http://lists.debian.org/20111015193508.GE5495%40virgil.dodds.net> [2] except for the SSD, my laptop is "old" (mostly 5-year-old) <http://bugs.debian.org/600671> [3] <http://bugs.debian.org/641541> > To make my point clear: I'm much in favour of supporting default > installations without a MTA. Just to be clear as well: I am not. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca
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