-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul,
while I largely agree with the all other things you mentioned, I have one thing to add here: On 20.05.2011 04:23, Paul Wise wrote: > Chose a specific person to mentor, review their packages, educate them > about Debian, upload their packages when ready and encourage them join > DM/NM. Rinse, repeat. This is currently more like an ideal rather than the current practice. I admit, I can't judge from others perspective, i.e. I can't know what other DDs do I didn't meet (so far), but from my experience the sponsor process is tenacious and frustrating for the sponsoree. While the idea you mentioned is really good in theory, it lacks DDs having time and interest to mentor a given person over time. From my experience it is really complicated to get your packages, bug fixes and updates into the archive and this is not because lack of quality (I'd hope) but because of people actually having upload capabilities are short of time, otherwise busy or not particularly interested to sponsor packages they don't care for (which is fair enough, I wouldn't neither). So from my experience, in reality you need to seek a new sponsor for every upload you want to get into the archive and this takes a lot of time and patience. For example I'm currently waiting and seeking since over a month to get a RC bug fix and upstream update into unstable until Asheesh signaled interest to help me recently. This is also a challenge for the DM/DD application process for a candidate, as certainly no one has a comprehensive overview about the prospective maintainer and would advocate him some day since most DDs know the candidate from a single upload only or so. Again, I admit I don't have a comprehensive overview to cover this topic in depth and from every perspective (but mine), but as far as I follow debian-mentors in both IRC and mailing list, many people share a similar experience. There definitively is room for improvements. - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJN1ijpAAoJEMcrUe6dgPNtgzYP/1RxVki88SQH67u9Ipb7oc2m KM63sUI89gP+q3G3PFEEAjEJCrbzg1mGIpTj93GuT7ZhTCXDdSFS7CEnJZnZzwiL 1a/8UK6iAsHk2C/xyZDGQnZEMV2A3CxLN2qhh5MVGQ4M0AwWuPRrX9TGyOOxE8Yy CHPXe6G2a+mm4UzUgOsEAmXLchE2pbdRD2Zay0p0m8cCjm8dqXQbuNsZMBvY7Kmn 8f2eJ7pCihk+a4oZm4qcKytoMY4ZRJRSRYudsdXDdOJR0LUZXpng/l8zZlGQRZKM D2W9byZl2hO8kabM61I6gzvJHOE/GBZ21zxgF0oph19A01gev0ESKcZ2U5ImlH/o 1DmDQcrkcXIdmzX0La2yTgCU6u4Zng3vQII7LnavcBpXiT8E6N1/ad100pCzuFd8 kjRefYKwrHzc82uVCJAW3u3PX3vFxkxE9FjZC7z0zEAdne3gqE6GP1U4mXbOB63F BI8X/Sc/mSyj8gXfGSUDr+tZSF2ayca7hgD5hj7ej3EWmuqdpopNgLlF4twI6ELh c4amNiw4z/sTp/VY2K5kK/FvxpnUoXPDJnvOnBUECUD0XDLh0H93ZXmt4j+t7RFv VQoHsow5mdBGEoxBEHE4ug94vpijT0Cyu+2fweVBKMCS5vuCfD6vfD4A6rsySr46 MNYFfzNsTkuUhiv4rCCh =8rII -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd628e9.10...@toell.net
