[explicit BCC to Roger] Hi everyone, Roger,
Roger Leigh has filed a few bug reports related to how the buildd's resolver (either internal or any of the new ones: apt{,itude}) and I'm not sure I quiet agree. Let's take for example the one filed against php5 [#614413]: [...] > Severity: important > > php5 is using these alternative build dependencies: > > automake (>= 1.11) | automake1.11 > libcurl4-openssl-dev | libcurl-dev > libdb-dev (>= 4.7) | libdb4.8-dev | libdb4.6-dev, > libjpeg-dev | libjpeg62-dev > libmysqlclient-dev | libmysqlclient15-dev > > The build dependency resolver is currently only using the first > alternative. Newer resolvers use the other alternatives, and > this can potentially lead to inconsistency between builds. Agreed that it can lead to build-deps inconsistencies. > Please only use one package, the one you specifically want for > the build, and drop the alternatives. The use of alternatives > in build dependencies is not supported. In particular, you really > only want one specific version of libdb (4.8?); there must be no > uncertainty about this when the build dæmon installs the build > dependencies. The same thing applies to automake and the other > packages using alternatives. I disagree here. Alternatives in build-* relationships *are* mentioned by policy. In fact, there's even an example in section 7.1. There's also no stated guarantee *anywhere* (including release policy) that the package's build deps should be consistent, much less the result. Also, alternatives have been used ever since I joined the project for making backporting easier. Requiring stricter build-deps also affects that use case. After thinking about it for a while, my opinion is that if anyone wants consistency to be guaranteed (e.g. in php's case that a rebuild doesn't end up linking php to libdb4.6 instead of libdb4.8) it should be handled on buildd/release team's side. The build deps as provided by the source package are valid. If the package fails to build because the dependencies were resolved in a non- standard way then an RC bug should be filed and fixed. I abhor the idea of uselessly tightening dependencies. Regards, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Developer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102211942.33509.geiss...@debian.org