]] Steve Langasek | On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:54:17PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > ]] Neil Williams | | > | You seem to think that every package is going to be uploaded just for | > | the sake of an upload. | | > | There is no way to guarantee that ALL packages in Debian will be | > | uploaded again by some point in the future. | | > | If a package does not need an upload - e.g. the only "issue" is an | > | ancient standards version - then dpkg cannot change behaviour in a way | > | that makes that package FTBFS. | | > You make it sound like a package upload is a big deal. Sometimes, you | > upload for small things, there's nothing wrong with that. | | No, he's saying that 16,000 package uploads are a big deal, which is the | number of source packages that have to be uploaded in order to complete this | transition.
(There are about 12.3k 1.0 packages, not 16k, but that's a fairly minor detail. :-) How many of those would have been uploaded anyway over two cycles? I don't have firm numbers, but my suspicion is «most of them». This would then just be one of those minor things you do when you update to a newer standards-version and fix various lintian nits. In fact, according to http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/dpkg-v3/, we're looking at about 480 packages being converted to 3.0 per month, meaning that at the current rate we'll probably be at something like 120% of the archive converted for squeeze+1. ;-) [...] | > How is this different to other changes in the toolchain which sometimes | > deprecate and remove functionality which then makes packages FTBFS? | | Can you point to such a toolchain change that required changes to even 20% | of the packages in th archive? I wasn't around for the libc5 => libc6 transition, but my understanding is it was larger than 20% of the archive. I would guesstimate the removal of /usr/X11R6 at being around the 20% mark (including binNMUs and all). So while they're uncommon, they're not unheard of. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k4qpdui7....@qurzaw.linpro.no
