Joey Hess <jo...@debian.org> writes: > Charles Plessy: >> At least one of the consequences of being native is that the package gets all >> its gettext and manpages translations for free from Debian. In the case of >> programs like ikiwiki [..] > > AFAIK, any translator from Debian who has translated ikiwiki's gettext > or underlays (no man page translations ever contributed) has done so in > the knowledge that it is not specific to Debian. > > Gunnar Wolf: >> Do you want to throw stones in the way of Debian derivatives by being unable >> to do packaging-specific changes while keeping track of your upstream >> releases? > > I see our most modification-happy derivative, Ubuntu, frequently modify > native packages, with apparent success. > > I've never seen them or anyone reach for debhelper's --ignore flag, but > it is there in case there is some file in debian/ that the derivative does > not want used.
I also would rather have a native package in Debian and then have Debian derivatives convert the package using Debians tar.gz as orig.tar.gz and put their derivate specific changes into diff.gz. Shipping a source with 0 byte diff.gz in Debian seems stupid and shipping a all of debian/ as diff.gz in Debian means the changes derivatives do get lost in a huge diff. Seems to me like a native package in Debian and non-native in a derivative is the best way. Now that all changes with the 3.0 formats. Then the could have: upstream.tar.gz debian.tar.gz derivative.diff.gz or upstream.tar.gz derivative.diff.gz That makes native or non-native in Debian equaly usefull to get changes back from derivatives. It is just a matter of making their build scripts build the right source packages. Something Debian could help teach dpkg-source. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org