Hi debian-devel, From policy 7.2 Binary Dependencies - Depends, Recommends, Suggests, Enhances, Pre-Depends
Recommends This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations. Suggests This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable. I filed a lintian wishlist bug (#527363) requesting a I/W tag when non documentation packages recommend documentation packages. With Install-Recommends being the default, many packages pull in a lot of associated documentation. These documentation packages are sometimes large and could be suggested rather than recommended. I noticed different opinions about such bugs on the BTS (See #504042 that went on to be fixed and #526153 that was not). I understand that upstream would sometimes like documentation to be installed alongside the binaries, but popcon numbers of -doc packages are quite lower the numbers corresponding to the packages that recommend them. Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against these packages? I am including a tentative dd-list corresponding to the packages [1] that I found after manually removing some packages [2]. I will modify it based on suggestions. [1] grep-dctrl --pattern="-doc" --field=Recommends --and --not \ --pattern="-dev" --field=Package --show-field=Package [2] Mostly haskell, tcl/tk, texlive and gtk/gnome documentation packages a few others like emacs-goodies-el, twisted-doc etc. I wonder if I should remove the following packages from the list. devhelp education-common education-electronics Daniel Leidert (dale) <daniel.leid...@wgdd.de> docbook-xsl Hideki Yamane (Debian-JP) <henr...@debian.or.jp> mirmon Salvador Abreu <s...@debian.org> gprolog Bill Allombert <ballo...@debian.org> gap Thorsten Alteholz <deb...@alteholz.de> mpb Henrik Andreasson <deb...@han.pp.se> pike7.6 (U) Daniel Baumann <dan...@debian.org> apcupsd dvdisaster wmii wmii2 Dominique Belhachemi <domi...@cs.tu-berlin.de> z88 Luciano Bello <luci...@debian.org> imagemagick (U) Hilko Bengen <ben...@debian.org> sepia Philipp Benner <pben...@uni-osnabrueck.de> python-biopython (U) wise (U) Jay Berkenbilt <q...@debian.org> vips Jan Beyer <j...@beathovn.de> bibus (U) W. 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