Le lundi 20 avril 2009 à 22:13 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit :
> > So, the HAL defaults are broken *for one keyboard model*.
> 
> Make that "for every keyboard I'm using". Why would the number of
> working keyboards matter?  If you care about such statistics you should
> probably use Windows.  It works for far more people than Debian does.

Bullshit. Windows doesn’t support any single model of multimedia
keyboard out of the box. You need specific drivers for each of them.

> > Geez, without
> > HAL your function keys wouldn’t actually work at all 
> 
> Well, it did work with acpid as long as the kernel supported
> /proc/acpi/event.  No need for hal at all those days.

It did because you were one of the lucky ones owning a model for which
these keys directly sent ACPI events. With HAL, this works for a much
larger number of models.

> > for many models
> > without jumping through incredible hoops or installing specific
> > software. I can’t believe you think this should be encouraged.
> 
> You still need the specific software to actually do something useful in
> response to these keys.  It's not like they are supposed to generate
> some character in your terminal.  They are supposed to trigger some
> action, like e.g. switching video outputs or enabling bluetooth.
> 
> AFAIK, you won't get around the specific software requirement. 

Yes you will. When a key triggers stopping the wifi signal, it needs the
same action whether your laptop is a Sonovo or a Toshidell. The same
holds for most if not all the multimedia keys. Using the same
abstraction layer for all of them allows to put the same software behind
all of them to accomplish the same task.

> *I'm* not going to trust hal. Everyone else should make their own
>  decision. 

If it’s just your decision, why are you bitching on this list?

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