Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> writes: > Petter Reinholdtsen <p...@hungry.com> writes:
>> cfengine2 > I think that's rather hard to justify as priority: standard. There are a > lot of other configuration management systems in the world (and IMO much > better ones). Ah, sorry, I see this isn't in your recommended list. This is probably used internally by Debian-Edu; sorry about the noise. Going through the recommended list in more detail, I agree with all of the following: > dmidecode > pciutils > psmisc (as mentioned) > tcpdump (as mentioned) and as mentioned would add apt-listchanges, rsync, and sudo to that list. The following are already priority: standard or higher: > less > traceroute > wget I don't think that we need to install, in standard, all of these hardware detection programs; it really seems like overkill to me: > lsscsi > memtest86 > procinfo Surely these are things people can install if and when they need them? I'm honestly mystified as to why any of the following should be in standard, given how obscure what they do seems to be: > consolekit > gdebi > libpam-ck-connector > nullidentd (and, for that matter, pidentd) I've not seen an ident server in years. I don't use IRC, though, which seems to be the last bastion of people who think ident is useful. I think installing tcpdump is sufficient; adding ethtool on top of it seems like overkill to me. As mentioned before, I think ping and fping have enough overlap that having both of them seems pointless. Similarly, I think we should pick *one* traceroute program; if the existing traceroute package isn't sufficient, we should *replace* it in standard with mtr-tiny or with tcptraceroute, but not add a new package. I agree with the decision to remove finger, and I'm not sure why you'd strongly recommend it. I think the following are borderline: > hdparm > iftop > iotop > ncftp > nmap > strace They're useful tools, many of which I use, but I'm not sure they're so useful to warrant installing them on every system by default. You can generally install them when you need them, and ncftp is kind of weird and heavy-weight to be the default ftp client (as useful as it is once you're used to it). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
