On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 09:08:04PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Further discussion came sixth, beaten by between 95 votes (option 2), > and 11 votes (option 6), with Reaffirm the social contract last, defeated > by further discussion by 109 votes.
Oh, a further thought came to mind. One way to simplify the vote is to look at who ranked option 1 (reaffirm the SC/delay lenny) first. There were a few "interesting" votes, that didn't rank any option first, namely: V: 6353227 etobi Tobias Grimm V: -77---7 msameer Mohammed Sameer V: 2------ pape Gerrit Pape (There's nothing special about those votes from a constitutional POV, but they're an interesting way of communicating "none of these options are my first choice", imho) Aside from those, everyone indicated some choice as #1. Five people ranked Option 1 as #1 _in addition to_ some other option, namely: V: 11----1 amaya Amaya Rodrigo Sastre V: 1----12 bartm Bart Martens V: 1---1-2 guus Guus Sliepen V: 1231--- reg Gregory Colpart V: 1132457 tale Tapio Lehtonen Additionally, 27 voters ranked option #1 above all other options (not counting p...@d.o, listed above): V: 145-2-3 adejong Arthur de Jong V: 1-----2 bahner Lars Bahner V: 1356472 ballombe Bill Allombert V: 1333332 bas Bas Zoetekouw V: 1-----2 bayle Christian Bayle V: 1546372 brlink Bernhard Link V: 1465732 cmb Chris Boyle V: 1667273 daniel Daniel Baumann V: 1---3-2 dmn Damyan Ivanov V: 1267225 edelhard Edelhard Becker V: 1-----2 godisch Martin Godisch V: 1456273 guillem Guillem Jover V: 1345362 igloo Ian Lynagh V: 1237465 jaqque John Robinson V: 1546372 js Jonas Smedegaard V: 1------ lbrenta Ludovic Brenta V: 1345672 mmagallo Marcelo Magallon V: 1346562 pabs Paul Wise V: 1------ paulwaite Paul Waite V: 1346275 peters Peter Samuelson V: 1236254 rmh Robert Millan V: 1777777 roktas Recai Oktas V: 1256473 schizo Clint Adams V: 1564372 stew Mike O'Connor V: 1456273 tb Thomas Bushnell V: 1--22-- timo Timo Jyrinki V: 1345672 vlm Vince Mulhollon Additionally, of the voters who ranked FD first, there was only one voter who then ranked option #1 above all the other options: V: 23----1 toni Toni Mueller By my count, that's a total of 29 developers in favour of a fairly strict interpretation of the social contract compared to the other options available, along with another 5 who consider that equally with some (but not all) of the other options, out of the 367 developers counted in the tally. That compares (somewhat loosely) with 42 developers (out of 323) voting FD above "Release etch even with kernel firmware issues" in the 2006 vote [0], or the 38 developers (out of 396) who voted for the "Reaffirm changes" option in the 2004 vote [1]. [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_007 [1] http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_004 As percentages, that's 9.6% in 2004, 13% in 2006, and 9.3% in 2008 -- though the comparison is particularly weak since unlike the 2004 and 2008 ballots, the 2006 ballot doesn't distinguish between voters trying to say "I don't want to vote on this" and "I don't want to see etch release with non-DFSG-free firmware". Those seem like lower numbers than I might have expected. YMMV. Also somewhat interesting: there were 17 developers who didn't express any preference amongst the options on offer (all simply voted in favour of further discussion): V: 2222221 ana Ana Beatriz Guerrero L??pez V: 2222221 anibal Anibal Monsalve Salazar V: ------1 arjan Arjan Oosting V: 2222221 bureado Jose Parrella V: 7777771 costela Leo Costela V: ------1 dajobe Dave Beckett V: 2222221 filippo Filippo Giunchedi V: ------1 florian Florian Ernst V: 2222221 francois Francois Marier V: ------1 helen Helen Faulkner V: ------1 jluebbe Jan L??bbe V: ------1 jordi Jordi Mallach V: ------1 lange Thomas Lange V: 7777771 mace Miah Gregory V: ------1 mhy Mark Hymers V: ------1 sto Sergio Talens-Oliag V: 2222221 vince Vincent Sanders And there were an additional 22 voters who just didn't distinguish between the various "let lenny release" options (8 in the "Reaffirm SC camp, 14 in the "release lenny as is" camp): V: 1-----2 bahner Lars Bahner V: 1333332 bas Bas Zoetekouw V: 1-----2 bayle Christian Bayle V: 1-----2 godisch Martin Godisch V: 1------ lbrenta Ludovic Brenta V: 2------ pape Gerrit Pape V: 1------ paulwaite Paul Waite V: 1777777 roktas Recai Oktas V: 3222221 adeodato Adeodato Sim?? V: 7222221 des Dami??n Viano V: 3111112 edd Dirk Eddelbuettel V: 7111116 jak Julian Klode V: -222221 jcristau Julien Cristau V: 3222221 joss Josselin Mouette V: 3222221 kibi Cyril Brulebois V: 3111112 kmccarty Kevin McCarty V: -222221 madcoder Pierre Habouzit V: 3111112 maks Maximilian Attems V: 3222221 marga Margarita Manterola V: 3111112 nduboc Nicolas Duboc V: 3111111 sdt Stuart Teasdale V: 3222221 vela Matej Vela Anyway, despite something kinda close to advocacy for the FD option in the second call for votes on d-d-a, FD lost convincingly to most of the options on offer. So of any conclusions you might draw, the simplest, safest and most easily justified seems to be "stop discussing this and release lenny"... Cheers, aj
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