On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 23:01 -0500, Matt Arnold wrote:
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> Romain Beauxis wrote:
> > Le Friday 28 November 2008 23:57:09 Holger Levsen, vous avez écrit :
> >> On Friday 28 November 2008 22:42, William Pitcock wrote:
> >>> I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of
> >>> Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository
> >>> for things like qmail, packages unwanted in Debian proper for the time
> >>> being, etc.
> >> debian-unofficial.org
> > 
> > Or, why not
> >   apt-get.org ?
> > Or
> >   mentors.debian.net ?
> > 
> > Honnestly, I fail to see clearly the benefit of it, apart from more 
> > confusion 
> > and new issues..
> > 
> > Romain
> > 
> > 
> 
> I think the goal is to create a common infrastructure, creating a Debian
> repository takes resources that some do not have. apt-get.org is great
> if you know about pinning and such but otherwise using it can really
> bork your system,

We're talking about a repository for substandard packages which may well
do that anyway!

> mentors is a hosting service for packages which will
> be part of Debian, at some point. What is needed is a properly
> constructed archive, with some of the same procedures NEW, buildds etc.
> For packages such as qmail which are useful, but which for some reason
> can't be supported in Debian.

But that must be separate from Debian, so there is no confusion as to
whether they meet Debian standards.

> I also see this as a way for NMs to show
> their stuff without the sometimes painfully slow sponsorship process.

Unless the uploaders are in some way trusted (and NMs are, by
definition, not yet trusted by the project as a whole) then the packages
should not be autobuilt (you can run arbitrary code on the buildds) or
in any way presented as trustworthy.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Any smoothly functioning technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.

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