Andreas Tille wrote: > Your remark above just ignores that the concept tries to profit from > synergies inside these projects which for instance are reflected in > these tasks or bugs pages, a common technique to build metapackages etc.
that's not my point; my point is that i don't see why a bunch of teams in Debian that make use of a common set ot tools/technics/$whatever should, just because of the fact that they use this common set, be carrying a special and confusing *different* name than the other teams terminology does. or in other words: probably every team is using/sharing some piece of tools/technics/$whatever with another team or that another team uses too - overlapping is always good and often happens. so why make some teams special and name them different? > If we now would be able to continue *working* for the concept and > stop spending time criticising the name itself (the time for this is > over as I tried to explain) or the renaming process in general which > is definitely a waste of time I would be really happy. again no offence intendet, but this is why this comes up all the time: you discuss something on your sub-project internal mailinglist that nobody else except sub-project members reads, then you guys decide on something, and present the result on d-d-a. since the topic is far broader and covers more people than just the already existing sub-projects, all other people do feel the need to discuss this as *they* see it the first time (through the d-d-a posting). the excact same situation happened when you announced 'dish' at debconf. to avoid such things, especially with defining naming terminology for things that covers such broad aspects of debian, a poll on your sub-project only mailinglists is probably not enough, and imho at least one of either d-devel or d-project should be CC'ed too to get peoples awareness *in the first place* and right at the beginning of the decission making, and not at the end. Regards, Daniel -- Address: Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]