Am 2008-11-04 14:02:14, schrieb Josselin Mouette: > In other words, I think the carrot has better leverage on them than the > stick. Of course it all depends on who we???re talking, as the stick will > work just fine on an obscure Chinese manufacturer but not on a > world-leading company that sells high-grade hardware at 10 times the > price.
Thats not all... I have goten a Chinese Manufacturer who has already build a GSM Module supporting Voice, SMS, MMS, VideoTelephone, GPRS, EDGE UMTS and HSDPA. The problem is, that even if it is mass production since some time, I can not distribute the firmware as open source since it change the behavour of the hardware which then can distrurb the GSM network. Attaching a FLASH memory of several MByte to it, would the module make 6 times more expensive... and no one would buy it anymore... And as I have already written, I do not know HOW OpenMoko will solv this problem, but FreeRunner/OpenMoko or PurpleMagic are not allowd to run in Europe with Open Source GSM-Firmware. And of course, PurpleMagic has never respond to my three E-Mails and one Letter. (they are in France) This was the last word of the TÜV Rheinland... The manufacturer MUST asure, that the, e.g., GSM/UMTS network will no be disturbed... IF, Debian distribute the OpenMoko Software within Debian, it could harm the Debian Projecc for legal reason... And they is some other hardware on which one can not install Debian, IF the installer has no access to the firmware to activate a device... And YES, my SmartPhone "Nokia 6120 classic" (ARM926-EJ, 312 MHz, 128 MB Flash, 64 MByte mobile SDRAM, 8 GByte micoSDHC) is now running EmDebian but it does not help, if the Firmware written by me, can not be distributed as Open Source, hence not in /main/ and the installer can not install anything since you must first upload the firmware to activate something... If the Debian CD/DVD/BlueRay do not include the /non-free/ directory or ship the stuff in /main/ or /contrib/ then there are many devices which can not be used with Debian, even it should work with it... Note: There are MANY Open-Source Extremists, which give a fsck on it and saying: "I would not buy such hardware" but this has NOTHING to do with the manufacturer but network security and law. Unfortunately I know several of them (a group) which code there own GSM firmware but the problem is, if they come in my near and switch from GPRS to UMTS I lost my GSM connection... Also there is a Website of a women, which has created a small hardware which can kick-off GSM devices... She has designed it, because she was very angry about peoples, using ther cell-phones to laud in public... Using her device can lead to juridical actions against the user... Disturbing of Public-Networks. So ANY hardware which MUST use tested certified hardware and software can not be used with Debian... Note 2: Since my Outdoor HandBag TablePC use as Main CPU an i.MX31 and as GSM Processor a PNX6712 the firmware will be not updatable from users... I give a fsck on users who say: "Then I will not buy your hardware!" because such users are assholes since the can not even Upgrade the Firmware of there Cell-Phone which is to 99% based on ARM926-EJ and could run EmDebian witout any problems. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/9351947 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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