On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:14:35 +0300, Joona Kiiski wrote: >>It should be documented: yes. >>But what's your problem? It is the same situation as for so much other >>hardware like WLAN, etc. And the sound card is not even essential for >>booting or downloading additional software. >>And no need to write a driver: it is still there. > > I think you didn't get the main point, I'm not too worried about the > sound of my ten years old laptop, I didn't even (yet) care to test the > fix. I'm much more worried about what things like this are going to > cause for the overall popularity of the debian. In case you didn't know, > 99% of western people don't know how to read kernel log or build and > install firmware from source. They don't even know what kernel means, > and really they shouldn't have to. > > Think for example my mother. She uses her computer for reading mail, > writing text, watching movies, listening to music, playing small java > games. I could install debian for her laptop and quickly teach how to do > those things. Then after using her computer for one year, she makes > upgrade and BANG! She can hear no more music, or she cannot use WLAN > anymore! She goes to shop, and buys Windows Vista and gets her neighbour > to install it for her. Typical death of linux. > > If you ******** fanatics cannot start to look things from my mother's > point of view, debian will not ever become popular. Now I cannot > honestly recommend debian to any of my friends, because instead of > making hard things simple, you are making simple things harder. > > It's just totally frustrating to see that huge effort put in X (it's > nowadays unbelievably easy to configure) is meaningless if you > intentionally break newbie users' systems in other ways (this time by > removing fully functional kernel firmware, next time, who knows...). > > Sorry for being rude. I'm just very angry.
At some time in the future it will hopefully be possible for udev(?) to get the 'missing firmware' event from the kernel; udev will be able to tell HAL(?) about the event, and HAL will be able to announce the missing firmware on the system message bus. Then a program that runs as part of the user's desktop environment will be able to recieve the message and help the user locate a copy of the firmware, download and install it. Maybe :) -- Sam Morris http://robots.org.uk/ PGP key id 1024D/5EA01078 3412 EA18 1277 354B 991B C869 B219 7FDB 5EA0 1078 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
