clone 481134 -1 reassign 481134 xpdf-japanese retitle 481134 xpdf-japanese Should register fonts in fontconfig and/or defoma and/or provide poppler specific symlinks retitle -1 poppler doesn't support xpdf config anymore severity -1 important stop
Heya, Executive summary: downgrading RC-ness against poppler, the burden of the fix is probably on xpdf-japanese to start with. Request for comments/help on fontconfig/defoma topics. On Wed, May 14, 2008, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > xpdf-japanese installs CMAP files in > /usr/share/fonts/cmap/adobe-japan1 etc, but libpoppler looks at > /usr/share/poppler. > I need to install the following symlinks in order to use the adobe > CMAP files. > $ ls -l /usr/share/poppler/cidToUnicode/Adobe-Japan1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2008-01-18 19:53 Adobe-Japan1 -> > /usr/share/fonts/cmap/adobe-japan1 > $ ls -l /usr/share/poppler/cMap/ > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2008-01-18 19:53 > /usr/share/poppler/cidToUnicode/Adobe-Japan1 -> > /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/Adobe-Japan1.cidToUnicode (the symlinks are flipped) I confirmed that adding similar symlinks allows display of Japanese PDF files with evince (poppler). I don't think adding the symlinks in poppler is a good idea. What happens here is that xpdf-japanese installs a xpdfrc config file snippet which will properly configure unicodeMap and cMapDir with various files for xpdf, see /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-japanese: #----- begin Japanese support package (2004-jul-27) cidToUnicode Adobe-Japan1 /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/Adobe-Japan1.cidToUnicode unicodeMap ISO-2022-JP /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/ISO-2022-JP.unicodeMap unicodeMap EUC-JP /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/EUC-JP.unicodeMap unicodeMap Shift-JIS /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/Shift-JIS.unicodeMap cMapDir Adobe-Japan1 /usr/share/fonts/cmap/adobe-japan1 toUnicodeDir /usr/share/fonts/cmap/adobe-japan1 ... poppler probably used to parse xpdf's config as it was forked from xpdf. Nowadays, poppler has these /usr/share/poppler/cidToUnicode and /cMap dirs (along others) to allow for these mappings; these rely on the filenames for the mappings to work, so e.g. if poppler needs Adobe-Japan1's mapping, it will look for Adobe-Japan1 in there. The actual data for the Adobe-Japan1 font is available in /usr/share/fonts/cmap/adobe-japan1 and /usr/share/xpdf/japanese/Adobe-Japan1.cidToUnicode, but there isn't any place with the data available with the expected file names "Adobe-Japan1". My understanding is that xpdf-japanese is very xpdf specific; it does install some files below /usr/share/fonts/cmap, but I'm not sure this is used by anything except xpdf. It only calls update-xpdfrc in postinst. As I see it, the modern way of dealing with fonts is to use fontconfig which poppler supports, but I'm not sure fontconfig provides support for cMap and cidToUnicode information. A Debian alternative for dealing with fonts is to use defoma which allows for package specific scripts to be run when fonts are registered/removed via defoma. Some defoma scripts mention cmap, but I saw no cidToUnicode references there either. So because the data is not currently available in any place I could find / think of or isn't in the proper format, I see the following solutions to fix this bug: a) make poppler parse xpdf's config again; I'm not too hot on this as it makes poppler leak that it's xpdf based, diverges from upstream, and isn't a sustainable long-term option; I'm not even sure it's still possible b) make xpdf-japanese register fonts properly in fontconfig; I don't have enough fontcp,fog foo to understand whether fontconfig can carry the relevant information/mappings though; help to write a /etc/fonts/conf.d/*xpdf-japanese*.conf is welcome; it's not clear to me whether such mappings are reaching too far for fontconfig's goal; this might also require poppler patching to lookup the relevant fontconfig data if poppler doesn't use this part of fontconfig, or if we had new API for this stuff to fontconfig; probably a good solution for other packages in the same solution as well c) make xpdf-japanese register fonts with defoma and make poppler run a defoma script to generate appropriate symlinks to the cidToUnicode and cMap files/dirs; I don't have enough defoma foo to understand whether it's already possible in defoma, but I would expect it is; this has the benefit of making it easy to handle other packages in the same case; help welcome to answer the open issues here d) make xpdf-japanese generate /usr/share/poppler/{cMap,cidToUnicode}/* symlinks; probably dead easy, but makes the solution poppler specific: other fontconfig or defoma using apps wont benefit from the fonts/mappings; also leaves open the question of integration: should it be a new poppler-japanese package? who should be pulling this package? For the long term, I'd recommend either b), or c) if b) isn't possible; for lenny, either the long term approach or the d) approach would work, but d) would only solve the problem for this particular package. Because b, c), and d) will almost certainly require changes to xpdf-japanese, I'm reassigning the RC counterpart of this bug to this package. I'm keeping an important bug open against poppler because it can be considered a regression of poppler, but I don't think it should be considered RC for poppler because: * xpdf-japanese is non-free while poppler is free; perhaps this is a fallacy, but I don't think support for a non-free package should affect the Debian release; if this is considered >= serious severity, it shouldn't be release-blocking * it's an upstream design decision that poppler doesn't support xpdf config/data and poppler doesn't aim to be compatible with xpdf's config/data: xpdf-japanese needs to grow compatibility with poppler instead Cheers, -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]