On 2008-06-13, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Martín Ferrari wrote: >> Both, I know that many people had written stuff on top of that output >> and interface. > > Including Debian.
indeed, ifupdown being the most obvious impediment to making net-tools priority optional. >> > net-tools doesn't suffer any showstoppers, is there a good reason to >> > replace it at this time? iproute is indeed much better, but it is not even >> > part of a standard Debian install currently. Maybe that's something that >> > we should start with if we want to migrate towards iproute. >> >> It's not something to be done in a day. But I think that given the >> amount of bug net-tools has, and the fact that it can't do much of the >> cool stuff provided by 2.4+ kernels, it's time for its retirement. And >> yes, iproute should become priority important. agreed. > You could have that as a release goal for lenny+1: net-tools as an optional > package. This means changing everything in Debian that uses net-tools to > iproute (except for other optional packages), which could be a good thing by > itself. We do need some forced churning on part of our network > infrastructure, after all. > > But to rewrite net-tools as wrappers for iproute? I fail to see the point. > It is just wasted effort, IMHO. They already work, and they're not using > deprecated interfaces to the kernel AFAIK (if they are, things change). I > think it is better to direct our efforts to stop using net-tools as much as > we can, so as to make the package optional... that alone will take a lot of > effort by itself. indeed net-tools is using deprecated ioctls to the kernel vs. the netlink sockets that iproute uses. see for instance #222676, and the fact that aliases created with 'ip addr add ...' don't show up in ifconfig output. mii-tool seems to be mostly superseded by ethtool. nameif seems to be superseded by ifrename / udev. rarp is obsolete. iptunnel, ipmaddr, slattach, plipconfig? -- Robert Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
