-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Martin,
Am Di den 17. Jun 2008 um 11:50 schrieb Martin Pitt: > Klaus Ethgen [2008-06-17 10:12 +0100]: > > I cannot prove that. Its sound quality is much better than the one of > > ALSA direct. (Well esd on top of OSS. It is not that good than with OSS > > direct but it is ok.) > > Hm, that rather sounds like for your card the OSS driver is much > better than the ALSA one. But OSS/ALSA both live below the application > level (where esound/pulseaudio/arts reside). Well, yes. > > I just see that issues when using ALSA. So please drop ALSA and not ESD. > > On the vast majority of systems out there, esound plays through ALSA. > The kernel only has very few OSS-only drivers left, and gradually > shifts towards ALSA only. > > Since ALSA is the kernel ABI (of course it has userspace libraries, > too), and esound is the user session daemon, it's not really an > 'either or' here. Sorry that I forgot the sarcasms tags. I know that they are different levels. > The alternative to esound is not really ALSA, but rather pulseaudio. Is pulsaudio supported by applications like wine for example? Do pulsaudio work on top of OSS? > > > At least in my personal experience, using ALSA directly (which has had > > > dmix enabled by default for years) gives much better results. > > > > My experience is complete opposite. ALSA is that kind of buggy. If you > > move the mouse while using sound on ALSA you hear cracks and sound > > disorders. Also they halfly translate the config files!!! And then I was > > not able to use it long time as it makes my systems complete instable > > and it ops all time. (Tested on kernel 2.4.*, 2.6.* and also with debian > > kernels or vanilla. And on all distros, Stable, Unstable or testing.) > > That's interesting indeed! So you avoid that by using an OSS driver > instead of the ALSA one? Yes. > I can really not imagine how esound on top of a broken ALSA driver > would sound better than just using the ALSA output directly? Oh, that was a misunderstanding. I mean ESD on top of OSS works well. You are true, a sound daemon and the hardware support are different. ALSA is a bit more than only the hardware abstraction then also some library stuff which share some functionality of ESD. So: OSS: Works well. OSS<-ESD: Works well too. ALSA: The problems above. ALSA<-ESD: I never really tested. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBSFe23J+OKpjRpO3lAQIwRgf+I7tfapqqZGLDic092i7L+3Uafk8k1P9P pQFgm24CA/9eZUMt5ejq7dkBbXpLxuncAClIjNhMt/ZrMimNdc+ZEhHgo5z+RfcI pttOAoxMqActOZG5swi7M0pMux7TY4ctkhkRnFYNT7sqSRfVMORJgckrJpZD8udJ GuOAz2g643njCdGVHVx9i3dzduJ9/T+ABZWitCVwrfrK/APm25KXegPP+n7ddltm g++pGYNqF3u5pCHLqUo5xnVanhZepIW2q8DCBO7Azw29K+dGCur0fE/3h77RnhJd A138fJyN1qH1eE1y1pwHReBAkECI9Y5mHk2vDXwV53iGa38BE3UfTg== =kB4L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
