Am Mittwoch, den 30.01.2008, 21:22 +0100 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 06:38:01PM +0000, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 30.01.2008, 12:31 -0500 schrieb Joey Hess: > > > Daniel Leidert wrote: > > > > Why should I mirror the upstream VCS and blow up > > > > svn.d.o or my own VCS servers? > > > > > > Because disk space is so much cheaper than your time that I can't even > > > find the adjectives to describe how much cheaper it is? > > > > My current workflow is fast enough. > > That's what I thought back when I used svn. I know I was wrong. > > > I already explained, that I perfectly work with the debian/-only setup > > (without symlinking or exporting anything, as suggested by different > > people). So why do you argue with "my" time? Putting the whole source > > under VCS and checking it out makes this workflow slower and not > > faster IMHO. > > Well, the point is that your repository isn't self contained in that > case.
My VCS always contains a debian/watch file or a get-orig-source target. So everything necessary is available. > Thanks to my workflow and pristine-tar, my $SCM holds _everything_ > from what I need to regenerate the orig.tar.gz, to my packaging, my > patches, and the upstream sources. Not different to mine, except one has to run uscan, apt-get source or debian/rules get-orig-source. Taking a look at the description of pristine-tar, I could of course put the .tar.gz under version control (AFAIK several projects using the mergeWithUpstream mode put the .orig.tar.gz under version control). But IMHO this is a waste of resources, because people can get the source from it's original location or at least from debian.org for the ones, important for Debian. > All of that in less space than two of > the orig.tar.gz of my upstreams. Your call. I simply have a few kb ... exactly the size of debian/* + patches and people can get the source from its original location, not a third party mirror (AFAIK this is still an important point for sponsors - verify the integrity of the upstream tarball). > What I know for sure, is that upstream websites don't live forever, > and that google doesn't mirrors tar.gz yet. Again, your call, I know > where I stand. To be honest: Why should I care about an upstream tarball, that is older than everything in the Debian archive back to oldstable? Why should this be important for Debian? I mean, in the past we even did not make that wide use of a VCS to prepare and build Debian packages. And now going back to a 5 years old upstream tarall is important for Debian? If it really is: snapshot.debian.org exists, archive.org exists - both seem to work for several examples, but not for all - just to be honest. But where is your point? Regards, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]