On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:20:33 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:06:14PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Secondly, these large application developers you seem to speak of >> appear to be proprietary application developers -- which mean that in >> my eyes the issue pales to insignificance. Are we talking about >> closed source software here? > Absolutely. Are you interested in how Debian competes in the market > place, or are you only interested that it remains free and useful to > you personally? I am interested in a free and powerful OS for the free software community -- like minded people, those who are interested in pushing freedom of software, as opposed to taking the path of least resistance. > Even if you're only interested in the latter, doesn't its usefulness > depend on the network effects of having other developers interested in > Debian and working on it as a project, which makes market share > relevant in any case? I am not convinced that the free software community can't keep the project supplied with developers (in other words, people like me). I am far more interested in creating a free OS than in a great platform for non-free software (if it happens incidentally, then I am not upset by it either). > In a world where a significant majority of our (current or > prospective) userbase needs closed source software in order to > accomplish the things they set out to with their computers, how Debian That does not really describe me, and not the target audience I put in my work for. > interfaces with such closed-source software is of some relevance to > all of us who want to see Debian thrive, even if we choose not to use > that software ourselves. Helping closed source software developers is not an itch I feel like scratching. But if other people want to spend time making things easy for closed software, I am of course not going to stand in their way, no matter what my opinions on such activities are. However, if it comes to a choice between free software and making things easier for non free software developers, or negatively impacting libre software to help closed source software development, I know how I would choose. So hurrying the release process to help out closed source development is not likely to see me as cheering from the sidelines, no. (pardon me if I am misinterpreting the thread as it happened on -release, where the proposed time-line of releasing in two years are being argued against because closed source software developers might decide to select against Debian -- which seems close enough to "hurrying up" to me). If that is not the case here, then I apologize for the noise. manoj -- In order to live free and happily, you must sacrifice boredom. It is not always an easy sacrifice. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]