-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/15/06 02:33, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On 10/15/06 00:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> [snip] >>> I think it should be in the porters control what packages to >>> build for an arch with some guidelines what sort of packages can >>> be removed without loosing release status. For example removing >>> KDE would not be OK. Removal should be reserved for extreme cases >>> though. Things that just need long to build should be put into >>> weak_no_auto and limited to the stronger buildds of an arch. >> Why *shouldn't* KDE, GNOME, Firefox/Iceweasel, Tbird, and anything >> that requires Mesa/OpenGL, and all of Charles Plessy's scientific >> packages be marked do_not_build on 68k/Coldfire & ARM? > > Because it is perfectly fine to run kde on such a system. Anything > that can run gnome can run kde. Anything that can run X can run kde I > would even say. Kicking one alternative for something (like kde) but > not others (like gnome) should not be allowed.
But I *am* saying that porters/maintainers should think about dropping all the heavy CPU- & RAM-using packages. Including GNOME. > If the port decides > that they don't need any X, e.g. there is no hardware capable of > running X applications, then they could remove all X stuff as a > whole. That would be different from removing kde. > > But I feel that X, Gnome, KDE is a big part of what makes Debian what > it is. If you remove all that is it still Debian? Am I not running Debian if I only have a minimal system installed? Of course I am. XFce, fvwm, BlackBox, AfterStep, WindowManager(?) and jwm would all still let you have a nice low-power system. [snip] >> If an Amiga (using the unaccelerated fb driver?) is running as an X >> Terminal for a powerful, modern box, the Amiga would need to process >> the OpenGL commands, no? > > There are no amigas with unaccelerated FB driver I believe, which does > not mean the FB is all that fast though. There are also crads with 3D > hardware and even cards allowing to use PCI graphic cards, > theoretically. But I don't think there is anything actually supported > and in use capable of realtime 3D gaming. Would a Virge 3D card even > be good enough to play Tuxracer? Anything that needs realtime GL is > probably useless for m68k. > > So even if you could get hardware GL working remotely m68k just > couldn't do it I think. Then why build Mesa/GL packages for 68k and ARM and (probably?) MIPS? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFMe5ES9HxQb37XmcRAvYsAJ0UPR+wq0jM0wAQE/CsobceZJrRbACdFs1l lr0AF+T7XgjgLezqpLfdgVU= =jq2f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
