2006/4/11, Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:44:57 -0300 > "André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old > > machines with poor hardware. > > That's an admiral goal, however I would be prepared for a great deal of > frustration. I worked on this for a while last year, but I wasn't > happy with what I ended up with. > > > I would like to receive opinions about my packages list: > > > > - x-window-system-core > > - xfce4 (beautiful!) > > You may want to offer a choice of window manager. On low-end machines > I'm partial to WindowMaker, but IceWm, FluxBox, or BlackBox are also > good choices. > > > - gdm > > If you're going to pull in gnome depencies anyway gdm is a good choice, > otherwise wdm may be better (but AFAIK wdm isn't keyboard-only > friendly). > > > - gftp > > - mozilla-firefox > > I would also install dillo that the user has a choice between a fast, > but no javascript, css, java, flash, etc support (dillo), or a slow (on > the hardware you describe) browser that is otherwise great.
Dillo is faster. I used here but some sites doesn't open very nice and Dillo doesn't have compatibility with the WM (copy and past functions for sample). > > - mozilla-thunderbird > > On a P1?! No way. Thunderbird is slower than molasses in January. I > would recommend Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws as a much faster/better > alternative. In fact I have recently switched to sylpheed-claws on my > personal workstation (Duron 850M/2.2G) because it's so much faster, > keyboard-friendly, and I'm finding it a better piece of software. Yes! Sounds good. Is more one option.... > > - menu > > I'd recommend against making an install task that is both about console > and GUI. Console vs desktop should be different tasks IMO. They > could, however, be part of the same cd (set). > > > - gcalctool (or xcalc) > > - evince > > Any particular reason for not just using xpdf? Evince have more resources and combine with the Xfce interface. In the reality I would like to keep the applications with the same appearance. Possibly gtk2. > > - eog > > - gaim > > - zip > > - unzip > > - arj > > - bzip2 > > - file-roller > > - gnome-utils > > - inkscape > > - gimp > > - abiword > > This is what I would use too, but I know someone who swears by LyX on > low-end machines, so you may want to check it out. LyX is a GUI for > LaTeX (and maybe DocBook, but I'm not clear on that) that is apparently > easy to get started with and works well for writing reports and > technical documents. I will add in my list... > > - gnumeric > > - gnumeric-plugins-extra > > - gnome-system-monitor > > - firestarter > > Those all look good. You may also want to toss in a couple of small > graphical games. > > > I made some tests with sucess in my machines with the following setup: > > Pentium 166 MHZ - 64 MB RAM - HD 2 GB > > What do you mean by success? Installs and can load, or you have tried > to do some of your usual activities and found the experience > reasonable? I know that when I was working on this, that I was getting > frustrated by the speed (though come to think if it, I was also using > 32 MB RAM) of firefox and some other apps. I also found that the 1.2 > GB drive I had was pretty cramped, and that I couldn't install > everything I had on the cd I made up (and which I already considered > cramped). Yes, with 64 MB RAM the things happens a little more fast. The firefox is slow but only until start. > Having said that, I have been considering trying again, now that a > medical condition is under control and not interfering with my ability > to focus, if I can find the time between work (which at present is not > even computer related) and the various other projects I have on the > go. If you need a tester I will likely be able to help. Ok! > Also I have a number of scripts and things that I was making to make > life easier for this project. I was also trying to go the debian's > package list to categorize everything, and to pick out and test various > apps that could be useful on a low end machine. Send me... Perhaps we can use in Debian... > Best of luck! > > Daniel > > P.S. I have cc'd you because I don't know if you are subscribed to > debian-devel or not. > > - -- > And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early, > now I have the rest of the afternoon to sniff fragrant tea-roses or > strangle cute bunnies or something. -- Michael Devore > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEO/dMhvWBpdQuHxwRAvG3AKC9NtRr01Kh0v9zdp6JWdk9RBaatgCgnN8O > Dbp0j9nK+gltLRSAbtqPRJw= > =cmt1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Andre Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira (si0ux) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ******************************************************************* Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)