Josselin Mouette writes: > Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 21:32 -0500, Michael Poole a écrit : > > > I wonder why all people go on trying to build up tons of different > > > fallacious reasonings to keep firmwares in main. Non-free is here for a > > > reason, we just have to use it. Technical solutions to have the driver > > > in the kernel or in contrib, and the firmware in non-free, exist. > > > > Sure. The unfortunate side effect is that some reasonable fraction of > > people who would use those drivers cannot install from install media > > that contain only Debian. They require bits of non-free. As is often > > pointed out, Debian has chosen (twice) to make life hard for those > > users. I guess the preferred solution for them is to just use some > > other distribution. > > Please stop these lies. I repeat: technical solutions do exist. For > hardware unnecessary at installation's first stage, it is only a matter > of making non-free available. For hardware necessary for the first > stage, it would be possible to make the installer load udebs from > alternate sources, but the people who'd be interested in it are > spreading lies on debian-devel instead of working on the code.
Exactly what is the "technical solution" for installing drivers for firmware-requiring hardware if you only have Debian proper (i.e. main) available? That is the situation I described, and I really do not see any technical solution for it, no matter how much you call it a lie. If installation media for Debian must include arbitrary bits of non-free, it makes the distinction between "main" and those bits rather pointless and arbitrary. Michael Poole
