Stephan Hermann, 2006-01-08 11:30:12 +0100 : > Hehe...well, it's a matter of working behaviour. I never said, that > working from the CLI is not faster or more productive > sometimes. What I'm trying to say is, that this "arrogant elite > thinking" must go away.
I don't see why the "poor oppressed non-elite" should have tools they find easy to use and the "arrogant elite" shouldn't. If my not-quite-geek sister wants to use her web browser to translate stuff, I don't see why she should be prevented from doing that, but then if I, as an arrogant bastard, want to use my ~/bin-full of ugly shell, Perl and awk scripts, why should I not be allowed to? > We have to focus on what we all want, that is bring good software to > the world. I'm not a member of this "we all" then. I mainly want to have fun and not feel bad about it afterwards. I found Free Software to be such an occupation. > For that, we have to find a simple and usable solution, that > everyone can work with. Not only the so called elite, or actually > those people who think they are. Correct. But also not only the people who can bear some kind of interfaces such as web interfaces. If such an interface is all I get, then I cease to have fun, and I'm excluded from the process just as much as my sister would be if the only interface were a set of awk scripts. > If we are not thinking about the people, who can't handle the > console, or are not able to fullfill simple tasks with the cli, for > those people we need at least another way. If Debian never followed > this example, well I think there wouldn't be a webinterface for > Debian BTS at all and all the informations of debian on the webpage, > we would find in gopher or txt files which i have to search with > archie. Choice is good, we all agree on that. So why do you want to *restrict* the tools to *just* some web interface? > To use a tool, I don't need a NDA. To use a tool, I often need to hack so it actually corresponds to my needs (or just to fix bugs). That means either a free tool or an NDA. Additionally, hacking a tool locally is easier than getting the central tool administrator to apply a patch that may or may not please everyone. Roland. -- Roland Mas Twenty thousand balls, clubs, and rings. How about yours? European Juggling Convention -- Carvin, France. http://ejc2004.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
