On Friday 23 December 2005 10:48, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 05:09:02PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > 368K is an issue on a machine with 8M of RAM, it's an annoyance if you > > have 16M, beyond about 32M it stops being a problem. > > Yeah, and a new optimization step only takes a few thenth of a second and > only a few extra KB of memory, so why not add it. And then everyone > complains that newer gcc versions are far slower than 2.95 was, and some > people can no more build complex applications due to the extra memory > requirements. It was just 0.1% bloat every time...
If the changes make things better for people who have machines that are <5 years old then making them slightly worse for people with ancient hardware is not a big deal IMHO. Regarding building complex applications, there are lots of decently powerful machines on the net that you can use for such things. I've got a machine with 2*P3-1GHz CPUs, 2*18G 10,000rpm U160 SCSI disks (and a couple more disks available without cables), and a gig of RAM (might be able to find a second gig) that I want to donate for such use. All I need is a place to host it in Melbourne (or someone who wants to pay postage to somewhere else that it can be hosted). It needs an ATX 2.0 PSU, but I'm sure I'll find someone willing to donate that. Incidentally it's the most powerful machine I've ever owned and it's significantly faster in every way than the machines I use for my regular work. If it wasn't unreasonably noisy I'd run it at home. The machine is aimed to be used as part of the nipl.net project (see http://www.nipl.net for details). There is an admin team ready to run it and they want to use Debian. > > Incidentally if 368K of memory is a problem for you then you should > > probably stop using Ext3. Ext2 uses less RAM (and that's RAM for > > non-pagable data). > > I hope you've already packed the UPS you're sending me. Once I receive > it, I'll gladly convert my ext3 filesystems to ext2. Until then please > do not compare apples to oranges. If you are concerned about what happens when a machine crashes then you should want to have the commonly written transient files on a tmpfs. Having a quiet file system is the best way of surviving a sudden power failure. Note that there are many hardware issues related to power failure that ext3 can't fix. Data journalling can help but not many people use that feature. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
