"Thijs Kinkhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, August 2, 2005 10:28, Andreas Barth wrote: >> And, BTW, is it not our problem to have too few AMs > While I can agree that there are too few AMs, the whole process itself > seems pretty bureaucratic with room for improvement. Once you've completed > the AM stage, this still has to happen: > - AM checks application. > - Front Desk checks application. > - DAM checks application. > - DAM creates account. > > (Source: nm.debian.org) > > So, once the AM, who has done a thorough review of the candidate, then you > still need to pass three steps. Why? Once you've reached the AM-approved > stage, you've already got: > - a good review by an existing developer (advocate)
It would be nice if all advocates would actually check that the
applicant is apt to become a developer: The high number of rejections
(by the AM) shows that this doesn't work.
> - an assurance from a person very experienced with Debian and with
> handling new developers
Right, because all AMs are very experienced with new developers, as they
have all processed like 20 applicants or so in 4 months.
> Well, I could understand that it's desired to have one last check by a
> third person at the end of the whole process. But why do the FD and DAM
> have to check separately?
Because the FD checks that the report is formally OK (and also gives a
bit of feedback to the AM and applicant), while the DAM checks from a
"Do we want to give a security hole to this applicant" point of view.
> And why is approval by DAM not equal to account creation? It seems to me
> that the account creation step could be fully automated: checking the box
> "approved by DAM" could trigger an insert into the LDAP database thereby
> creating the account.
(1) Account creation needs a bit more than that, as the applicant's key
needs to be added to the keyring
(2) WTF? You want to give LDAP write access to a PHP script?
Marc
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